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Why am I blocked? And all the articles I created are removed from my user page? I haven't even been editing. Please unblock me. This must be a mistake. Please point out harmful or vandal edits I made. Please show me the mistakes and I will fix. Please review and put back the articles. Thanks.
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Sometimes this will bring up mirror sites that are not authorized. I didn't know this, when I first started doing this. But, even though we are not technically violating anyone's copyright when we link to an unauthorized mirror site, that is violating a copyright, we just don't do it, out of
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I am going to repeat my first point, because I think it is very important. It is counter-policy to remove perfectly valid links, as you did, just because they are no longer online. IMO it is very damaging. And you might consider stopping whatever you are doing, and
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Your edit shows up when I look at the article, so no worries. Though, to be honest, I am not completely certain what you are trying to say. It is a good reference, so why not use a direct quote? Let me know if I can be of assistance.
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Let's be clear, I removed the prod because I did not think it was being used in a manner consistent with the deletion policies. When you think an article is written from a biased POV the deletion policies do not recommend deletion:
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I spent several hours hunting down and restoring the articles on my watchlist that you damaged -- time I would much rather have spent more productively.
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I commented them out, rather than removing them, so others would be able to track them down and correct them. I am unable to do so. Cheers,
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the promotions have gone down, the nominations have as well, and I think that was your point too?
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