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Kian Breckin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Bringing this here for discussion since Draft:Kian Breckin and Draft:Kian Breckin (footballer) had been declined on multiple occasions, and the editor who created the mainspace version has some problematic creations. I feel like this needs discussion to see if Breckin is notable. Star Mississippi 20:51, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Lesotho Women's League (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence this Lesotho football league meets WP:NORG or WP:NSPORT. There's no WP:SIGCOV in reliable, independent, secondary sources. (In contesting the PROD, the page creator said "I want to recall that this article is a stub and not an article with a high coverage so I don't think it should be deleted," which is not a particularly strong rationale for keeping an article about a non-notable subject.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

2022 Kirin Cup Soccer squads (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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We typically don't keep squads from the many invitational or smaller-scale tournaments around the world. I found some precedents for deletion here, here, here and here, and others too I'm sure. Geschichte (talk) 19:12, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Khoan Soben (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No WP:SIGCOV for this Cambodian footballer; result is the subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Kong Lyhour (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No WP:SIGCOV to be found for this footballer; fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:15, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Kristína Košíková (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I cannot find any evidence of notability for this Slovak women's footballer. The only secondary source I found is an interview, but nothing else to pass WP:GNG. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:47, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Portuguese football in 2006–07 UEFA competitions (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Content should be merged to 2006–07 in Portuguese football, not notable as its own topic. No other similar articles in this variety exist. WP:NOTSTATS also applies. S.A. Julio (talk) 09:34, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Turkish football clubs in European competitions 1990–1999 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:NOTSTATS applies. Article contains no prose/context, no references, and no relevant external links. It's just pure statistics, and adds no value. Useful information that is better contextualized is already available at Turkish football clubs in European competitions. S.A. Julio (talk) 09:38, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Ahn Seok-ho (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No indication of meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT, tagged as BLP lacking sources for 15 years. PROD has been tried before. Geschichte (talk) 07:19, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Kang Dong-gu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Short career in the K-league, some games in semi-pro lower divisions. Geschichte (talk) 07:19, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Cai Haojian (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played a couple of minutes in the Chinese Super League, as well as a loan in the third league. Sources are WP:ROUTINE and I don't see anything else that can help it pass. Geschichte (talk) 07:22, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Persikasa Sarolangun (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG guidelines, and I can find no non-passing coverage. Will retract if sources are found. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 01:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Julia Arnold (footballer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence or claim of notability. Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 20:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources and Julia Arnold played in the 2022–23 DFB-Pokal Frauen final. Dwanyewest (talk) 22:17, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Comment - She is also an artist 1 (page 8 and 9) 2 (page 4 and 5). Dougal18 (talk) 12:05, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

2024–25 Taça da Liga (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Disputed draftification. Draftify until something happens, like the event at all. WP:TOOSOON 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 16:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep and improve by adding references. The tournament is clearly notable. In my opinion, it's not a WP:TOOSOON since the matchups were determinated for the first round of the tournament, so there are some useful contents in the article. Lâm (talk) 19:24, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Zhejiang Normal University East Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unable to find any sources conferring notability. Most mentions in any sources appear trivial. Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 15:00, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Lâm (talk) 16:00, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Zhang, Bin 张斌; Jin, Lu 金璐 (2023-09-16). "（杭州亚运会）浙江金华亚运场馆：草坪像"毛毯"，灯光会"跳舞"" (in Chinese). China News Service. Archived from the original on 2024-09-19. Retrieved 2024-09-19.

      The article notes: "9月19日，金华市体育中心体育场和浙江师范大学东体育场将迎来杭州亚运会第一轮足球小组赛的对阵。浙江师范大学东体育场同样经过改造，其草坪用肉眼看上去十分平整，实际上却是中间高、两侧低，有千分之三的坡度以防止雨季草坪积水。为此，工作人员在铺草时还运用卫星定位系统来确保精确。据工作人员介绍，金华市体育中心的体育馆和体育场所用灯具与杭州亚运会主场馆“大莲花”同款，这些LED灯有着节能环保电费省、坚固耐用寿命长、光线柔和无频闪、色彩丰富造型多等诸多优点。"

      From Google Translate: "On 19 September, the Jinhua Sports Center Stadium and the Zhejiang Normal University East Stadium will welcome the first round of the Hangzhou Asian Games football group match. The Zhejiang Normal University East Stadium has also been renovated. Its lawn looks very flat to the naked eye, but in fact it is high in the middle and low on both sides, with a slope of 0.3% to prevent water accumulation in the lawn during the rainy season. For this reason, the staff also used the satellite positioning system to ensure accuracy when laying the grass. According to the staff, the lamps used in the gymnasium and stadium of Jinhua Sports Center are the same as the "Big Lotus" main stadium of the Hangzhou Asian Games. These LED lamps have many advantages such as energy saving and environmental protection, low electricity bills, durability and long life, soft light without flicker, rich colors and many shapes."

    2. Zhang, Feng 张峰 (2023-01-09). "亚运新景观丨3个城市，8座比赛球场，杭州亚运会足球赛，你准备去哪看" . Qianjiang Evening News (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-09-19. Retrieved 2024-09-19 – via Toutiao.

      The article notes: "浙江师范大学东体育场将承担3场男足小组赛和1场女足小组赛。项目改造提升涉及足球天然草坪、球场照明系统、扩声系统、功能用房、电视转播系统等方面，最多可容纳12241名观众同时观赛。主席台一侧座椅为亮红色，对侧橘黄色座椅中，还镶嵌着白色的四个英文字母：ZJNU，这是浙江师范大学英文的首字母，是浙师范的专属印记。足球场的天然草坪达到国家一级场地认证标准，采用了全自动天然草坪种植层APP远程监控系统，能对各项数值做到全时监控和预警。场馆还有智能灯控系统的一键启动，球场照明系统照度可达2000lux，是现有足球场地照明标准的最高级别。"

      From Google Translate: "The East Stadium of Zhejiang Normal University will host 3 men's football group matches and 1 women's football group match. The project renovation and upgrading involves the natural football turf, stadium lighting system, sound reinforcement system, functional rooms, TV broadcasting system and other aspects, and can accommodate up to 12,241 spectators at the same time. The seats on one side of the rostrum are bright red, and the orange seats on the opposite side are inlaid with four white English letters: ZJNU, which are the first letters of Zhejiang Normal University in English and the exclusive mark of Zhejiang Normal University. The natural turf of the football field meets the national first-level field certification standards, and adopts a fully automatic natural turf planting layer APP remote monitoring system, which can monitor and warn all values ​​at all times. The venue also has a one-button start of the intelligent lighting control system, and the illumination of the stadium lighting system can reach 2000lux, which is the highest level of existing football field lighting standards."

    3. Dong, Yixin 董易鑫; Ji, Junlei 季俊磊 (2022-04-16). "杭州亚运会足球小组赛赛场草坪：每周"理发"约两次" (in Chinese). China News Service. Archived from the original on 2024-09-19. Retrieved 2024-09-19 – via Sina Corporation.

      The article notes: "位于金华的浙江师范大学东体育场将举行杭州亚运会足球小组赛，这里的草坪更新养护工作便由沈伟宏主要负责。这里种植的草坪是特殊培育的品种，草皮下面的铺设结构大致可以分为喷灌系统、排水盲管、砾石层、无纺布、约10厘米的中粗砂层、营养土(种植土)等。 据悉，这块草坪目前的色泽密度均一性、张力、平整度、渗水率、球的反弹率及滚动速度等各项检测数据均已具备承接国际赛事的资格。"

      From Google Translate: "The East Stadium of Zhejiang Normal University in Jinhua will host the Hangzhou Asian Games football group matches. Shen Weihong is mainly responsible for the lawn renewal and maintenance work here. The lawn planted here is a specially cultivated variety. The laying structure under the turf can be roughly divided into sprinkler irrigation system, drainage blind pipe, gravel layer, non-woven fabric, about 10 cm of medium-coarse sand layer, nutrient soil (planting soil), etc. It is reported that the current testing data of this lawn such as color density uniformity, tension, flatness, water permeability, ball rebound rate and rolling speed are all qualified to host international events."

    4. "心心相融 杭州亞運之旅系列：浙江金華傳統與現代交相輝映" . Wen Wei Po (in Chinese). 2023-10-08. Archived from the original on 2024-09-19. Retrieved 2024-09-19.

      The article notes: "浙江師範大學東體育場：足球 這場館總建築面積8,391平方米，在改造提升過程中，從足球場天然草坪、球場照明系統到擴聲系統、功能用房、電視轉播系統，都嚴格執行「綠色、智能、節儉、文明」的辦賽理念，足球場天然草坪達到國家一級場地認證標準，塑膠跑道達到中國田徑協會一類場地認證。"

      From Google Translate: "Zhejiang Normal University East Stadium: Football The stadium has a total construction area of ​​8,391 square meters. During the renovation and upgrading process, the "green, smart, frugal, and civilized" policies were strictly implemented from the natural lawn of the football field, the stadium lighting system to the sound reinforcement system, functional rooms, and television broadcast systems. According to the concept of hosting games, the natural lawn of the football field has reached the national first-level venue certification standard, and the plastic track has reached the first-level venue certification of the Chinese Athletics Association."

    5. Jiang, Xiaolai 江小来 (2023-03-28). "杭州亚运场馆show丨浙江师范大学东体育场" . Zhejiang Online (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-09-19. Retrieved 2024-09-19.

      The article notes: "浙江师范大学东体育场为亚运会足球项目比赛场馆，位于金华市婺城区，在金华亚运分村西北方向且相距约7.1公里。... 总建筑面积8391平方米，观众席位数11349个。"

      From Google Translate: "The East Stadium of Zhejiang Normal University is the venue for the Asian Games football event. It is located in Wucheng District, Jinhua City, about 7.1 kilometers northwest of the Jinhua Asian Games Village. ... The total construction area is 8,391 square meters, with 11,349 seats."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Zhejiang Normal University East Stadium (simplified Chinese: 浙江师范大学东体育场; traditional Chinese: 浙江師範大學東體育場) to pass Knowledge (XXG):Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 10:00, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Shunkun Tani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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His claim to notability, playing 5 matches in the Japanese third league as well as some amateur competitions, is very weak. An absence of sources with significant coverage means that he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 12:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Shunsuke Sunaga (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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His claim to notability, playing 18 matches in Singapore, is weak. An absence of sources with significant coverage means that he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 12:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Shun Kumagai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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His claim to notability, playing 154 minutes in the J League and 12 matches in Singapore, is weak. An absence of sources with significant coverage means that he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 12:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Obed Yeboah (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable football player. Completely lacking WP:RS, and none would likely exist. Fails WP:SPORTBASIC, WP:GNG. Cabrils (talk) 06:06, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

MP Port Dickson F.C. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No-notable sports club. Fails WP:NTEAM, WP:GNG. Cabrils (talk) 05:55, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Kim Kyong-il (footballer, born 1988) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 05:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Ribiyanda Saswadimata (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Replacement of PROD; played youth nationally, but only played 68 minutes with the Eunos Crescent. Might fail WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Roasted (talk) 23:22, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Liberia at the Africa Cup of Nations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All sources provided are match reports. And very little, if any, of the information here cannot be found in the Liberia national football team article and the two individual AFCONs in which Liberia appeared. Anwegmann (talk) 17:51, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Connall Ewan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am unable to find enough in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. I found some routine transactional announcements (1, 2, 3) and interviews (1, 2, 3), but nothing approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 06:36, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Griffin Tomas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am unable to find enough in-depth coverage of this soccer player in independent sources to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 01:18, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

a quick little google search will tell you that he's played in two usl championship matches. omg i hate stupid people like you... -Soccerfan10001 — Preceding undated comment added 03:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Please be WP:CIVIL. Also, playing in USL Championship matches has no relevance to WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. Spiderone 16:50, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Husam Hourani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Lâm (talk) 18:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Yang Song-guk (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Redirect to 1966 World Cup squad. Simione001 (talk) 00:43, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Draftify per above. Just realized from this that documentaries can count as sigcov, thanks! May be able to write some articles based on subjects covered in documentaries. seefooddiet (talk) 12:27, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Felix Goddard (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG, no significant coverage, just stats/routine news. GiantSnowman 19:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

It’s got significant coverage from what I can see. Stop pointlessly tagging pages for deletion - becoming quite pathetic now. 2A06:5902:180C:5800:59C9:B142:4513:9C80 (talk) 19:59, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Stop editing from your IP, EnglishDude. GiantSnowman 17:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Li Dong-woon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Redirect to 1966 World Cup squad. Simione001 (talk) 00:39, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Kim Kyong-il (footballer, born 1970) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:35, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Lâm (talk) 05:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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Football biography fails WP:GNG, WP:NSPORT with no WP:SIGCOV in independent, secondary reliable sources. The only sources are WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS or database directories like this one. He fails WP:NOLYMPIC as a substitute for a team that did not apparently medal. I propose either to delete or to redirect to Football at the 1948 Summer Olympics – Men's team squads as was done earlier this year before being reverted. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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Another football biography fails WP:GNG, WP:NSPORT with no WP:SIGCOV in independent, secondary reliable sources. The only sources are WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS or database directories like Olympedia. He fails WP:NOLYMPIC as a substitute for a team that did not apparently medal. I propose either to delete or to redirect to Football at the 1948 Summer Olympics – Men's team squads as was done earlier this year before being reverted. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:39, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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I cannot find any evidence of notability for this Slovak men's footballer to meet WP:GNG. He only played 48 matches in lower leagues. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:39, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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Subject lacks significant coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources. (I would draftify, but a draft already exists - which can be incubated until the subject is ready for mainspace). Paul W (talk) 09:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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The claim to notability, playing 66 minutes in the second league of Portugal, is extremely weak. There are some sources, but they seem like WP:ROUTINE transactional news: . These two might be more substantial, but are paywalled: . Perhaps someone can access them? Either way, his achievements were so minor that I don't think it meets the policies. Geschichte (talk) 03:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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23 games in Albania’s highest league, brief career in the semi-pro second tier. I am unable to find significant coverage of the player, which would be needed to satisfy WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I only found this as well as this, where the news outlet bears the Wordpress logo, i.e. looks like a blog. Geschichte (talk) 03:42, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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Fails WP:NBASIC. No significant coverage. C F A 💬 22:56, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 5 games in Singapore. Geschichte (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 298 minutes in Singapore. Geschichte (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 168 minutes in Singapore. Geschichte (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 10 games in Singapore. Geschichte (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Talk page suggests it be considered for deletion Chidgk1 (talk) 16:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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There is certainly a lot of numerical data here but unfortunately the only reference is one of the regulations not the scores Chidgk1 (talk) 16:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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New sources are either from the league in which he plays or are basic WP:ROUTINE coverage about a specific game with no meaningful coverage of the player himself. This is not WP:SIGCOV. Anwegmann (talk) 15:50, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

The new sources (sport.ua/2024-09-14, ua-football.com/2024-09-15) have nothing to do with the league (UPL) in which Pshenychnyuk plays, and imho they are not something like WP:ROUTINE coverage. Web-wiki-warrior (talk) 19:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
See this example of significant coverage for Leah Williamson. Spiderone 16:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
This is an excellent example. Thank you. Anwegmann (talk) 23:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
@Spiderone: Thank you for example, but that doesn't lead me to think that at least following sources (source-1, source-2, source-3) don't provide WP:SIGCOV about Oleksandr Pshenychnyuk. Web-wiki-warrior (talk) 11:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
They are just passing mentions from what I can read... ಠ_ಠ ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
@Clara A. Djalim: Sorry, but imho you are wrong ... 1. The sources I mentioned/provided (source-1, source-2, source-3) are not passing mentions. 2. I don't think you can read Ukrainian, so in this context, I don't think you can judge 100% whether the content of the sources mentioned above provides WP:SIGCOV or not. Web-wiki-warrior (talk) 10:01, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

General question: Is an interview (for example at least for 30 Minutes) with the football player that was published as a YouTube video considered as sufficient and significant coverage? Web-wiki-warrior (talk) 08:42, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete as per last AFD. I really don't see potential as a draft since almost nobody outside Ukraine knows the clubs he played for. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
    @Clara A. Djalim: Sorry, but imho you are wrong again if we take a closer look at your sentence "almost nobody outside Ukraine knows the clubs he played for". Pshenychnyuk plays for Ukrainian Premier League side FC Chornomorets Odesa. If you don't know the team doesn't mean nobody outside Ukraine knows the club he plays for. If we take a look at Knowledge (XXG) article FC Chornomorets Odesa (it's the club Pshenychnyuk plays for), we can see that article is provided by 37 languages. Furthermore, it is not a criterion of WP:SIGCOV whether someone outside Ukraine knows/doesn't know football teams from the Ukrainian Premier League. Web-wiki-warrior (talk) 10:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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The claim to notability, playing 4 minutes in the KLeague and some in lower divisions, is weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that, and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 06:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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The claim to notability, playing 17 minutes in the Chinese Super League and 9 games in China League Two, is very weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that – being WP:ROUTINE, match reports or not about him – and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 06:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT, played 30 minutes in Albania's highest league and a handful of games in Kosovo. All the sources I could find were databases, social media, trivial mentions and a number of WP:ROUTINE transactional announcements: Geschichte (talk) 06:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Playing 1 international match for a very small country is not a credible claim to notability anymore. I cannot find any additional sources about this guy, although there are many other Mario Johnsons spread across the English-speaking world. Geschichte (talk) 06:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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This type of squad overview for a league in a specific season isn't really a thing Knowledge (XXG) does. It therefore fails WP:NOT. Geschichte (talk) 09:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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There is no evidence this athlete passes WP:GNG/WP:NSPORT. I can find no WP:SIGCOV. (Contested PROD.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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The claim to notability, playing 15 matches in South Korea 15 years ago, is weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 18:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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The claim to notability, playing 739 minutes in the second Japanese league, is weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 18:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Ruan (footballer, born 1991) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The claim to notability, starting 2 matches each in a Brazilian regional tournament and the third tier of Greek football (as well as 8 additional substitutions on), is very weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 18:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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Úradník played a total of 904 minutes in 16 matches to date. All I found were an interview and contract extension; nothing to indicate that he meets WP:GNG. Considering that almost no Slovak clubs are well-known outside their homeland, I don't see this article as a potential draft. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 10:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 80 minutes in Albania’s highest league. Continued in the semi-pro second tier after that. Searching for sources, I exclusively find databases and trivial mentions, as well as several unrelated namesakes. Geschichte (talk) 05:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 14 matches in Albania’s highest league. Currently active in the semi-pro second tier; however, I am simply not able to find a single source with something resembling significant coverage. This routine/trivial mention was the best I could find. What do you think? Geschichte (talk) 05:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 32 minutes in Slovakia’s highest league. Continued in the second tier after that. His name is common, so I searched in conjunction with his club names and came up very light. This, this and this are all just match reports. This is just a summary of who played in the junior squad in 2015. Geschichte (talk) 05:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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Playing 3 games in the Chinese Super League, as well as 18 more in China League Two, is a weak claim to notability. Sources are two squad listings in table format as well as one match report. As such the player fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 05:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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Nothing has really changed since the last AFD - yes, he made a few sub appearances at the end of last season (totalling 217 minutes per Soccerway), but there remains no significant coverage, everything is pretty much match reports and stats sites, fails WP:GNG. No spectacular career that would justify keeping GiantSnowman 07:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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Non-notable young player who fails WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 07:15, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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Non-notable young player, fails WP:GNG, now playing in non-league and unlikely to be notable any time soon, if at all. GiantSnowman 07:20, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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PROD removed by article creator, no reason given. No significant coverage, everything is pretty much match reports and stats sites, fails WP:GNG. No spectacular career that would justify keeping. GiantSnowman 20:20, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Once again this page is not "pretty much match reports and stats sites"!
Please check the sources and READ the article as well as sources before making false statements about another one of my pages EnglishDude98 (talk) 21:10, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
  • It is made up of one more type of source: primary sources. In general that means sources created by himself, his family, his employer or his association - in this case, all news published by his own club are primary. They can be used, but do not provide notability for a subject. Geschichte (talk) 05:39, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
    Exactly - where is the significant coverage? The fact that @EnglishDude98: does not understand notability requirements remains concerning. GiantSnowman 06:53, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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I am unable to find sufficient coverage of this footballer to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. A few transactional announcements (2023, 2024), but nothing approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 19:31, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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    Keep: I originally reviewed this article and passed it because a brief search for sources I did found 1 2 plus the articles listed in the nomination, all of which are secondary sourced articles about her, and include more than trivial content. Some of them are based around transfer announcements, but they all contain more than a passing mention with content such as quotes and information about her as a player. 🌸wasianpower🌸 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
    The routine transactional announcements have two sentences of coverage each, with the rest being quotes. Every mention of Wilde in the OneFootball article is a re-hashing of something she said while the WSLFullTime article is another routine transactional announcement. JTtheOG (talk) 20:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
    I'm not sure if I'm missing a WP:NSPORTS policy here but what is the policy that says articles about transactions don't count towards coverage? I would also dispute the characterization of the OneFootball article. It's an article focusing on coverage of things she said and her performance on the field as well as her relation to the team, she is the primary subject of the article; I can't really see anything that wouldn't make it WP:SIGCOV. 🌸wasianpower🌸 (talk • contribs) 23:20, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Quotes from the subject are not significant coverage. We want to see what other people say about Wilde, not what she says about herself and her team. Spiderone 18:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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  • Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete. Sourcing is nowhere close to the IRS SIGCOV required by NSPORT. The OneFootball article has zero secondary independent coverage of Wilde: every single sentence is either reporting what she said or is about something other than her. And on top of that it's also a reprint of a FAWSL piece, so it and the routine transactional announcement count as ONE source of non-GNG coverage. Not to mention that FAWSL appears to be SPS -- it's essentially a blog written and edited by one person, and such sources can NEVER be cited in BLPs. So in effect we have no RS coverage at all. JoelleJay (talk) 23:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete per JoelleJay, not much else to add. Note that Wilde is young and may become notable in the future so no prejudice against creating again should she gain some significant coverage. Spiderone 16:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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The claim to notability, playing 17 minutes in the Portuguese second tier and 2 minutes in the Chinese Super League, as well as some on lower tiers, is very weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 18:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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The claim to notability, playing 11 games in League One and a few minutes as a substitute in the highest league, is weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 18:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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The claim to notability, playing 25 minutes in the Chinese Super League and some on the third tier, is very weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 18:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Torneo de Copa 2018–2019 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I could not find significant coverage of the topic or reliable sources, the article only has a mere existence. Alon9393 (talk) 16:16, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Ōtākaro FC (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This relatively new youth-only football club fails WP:GNG; there is no WP:SIGCOV of the club in independent, secondary, reliable sources. (It may just be WP:TOOSOON since this club isn't yet two years old, so I would support draftification as an AtD if other editors agree, but deletion is also an appropriate outcome.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:15, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Delete no sigcov. Alexeyevitch 07:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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The claim to notability, playing 111 minutes in the Chinese Super League, is weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 12:23, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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The claim to notability, playing 142 minutes on Slovakia’s highest level, is very weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 12:24, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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The claim to notability, playing 8 games in Hong Kong, is very weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 12:23, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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The claim to notability, playing 239 minutes on Slovakia’s highest level, is weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 12:24, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Qiddiya Coast Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It's WP:TOOSOON and it is set to be built for 3 years from now.

I'm also nominating the following:

South Riyadh Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
King Khalid University Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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The result was delete‎. asilvering (talk) 21:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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Article recreated after 2022 deletion, but the sourcing fails to show WP:SIGCOV in independent, reliable sources, and thus the subject once again fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was Draftify‎. Liz 21:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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Biography of a Serbian football player shows no WP:SIGCOV in independent sources and thus fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:08, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Eddie891 Work 19:03, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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I am unable to find sufficient coverage of this footballer to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All passing mentions. JTtheOG (talk) 18:50, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was Draftify‎. Eddie891 Work 19:10, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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PROD removed by article creator, no reason given. Ni significant coverage, everything is pretty much match reports and stats sites, fails WP:GNG. No spectacular career that would justify keeping. GiantSnowman 17:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Eddie891 Work 19:09, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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Fails WP:NSPORT, WP:GNG. No evidence of WP:SIGCOV in independent, secondary, reliable sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Fails WP:GNG. Severe lack of sources and content. The only reference is from a primary source. EpicAdventurer (talk) 13:54, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Comment. Creator is globally locked. The page is not great, but is a part of a series of 2014 J3-League club seasons. Geschichte (talk) 11:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
    I agree, it’s part of an entire series of articles for the different Japanese football leagues which not only tracks the competitions year by year, but the teams too. Cutting out a single article in the series seems like it would break up the series for no good reason, when the information itself is super clearly presented, and threaded, in a way I haven’t been able to find anywhere else online.
    In my opinion deleting it would take away something useful. For that reason, I have the page a solid edit tonight. I’ve still got to go ahead and add match report links to each individual game, but I think I at least covered the basics.
    This is such a useful resource that I’m going to make it a mission to pick through all the rest of the articles in the series one by one, and expand / source each of those as well. So it would be really nice if you didn’t delete this one article as I’m doing that…
    Vote to keep. Absurdum4242 (talk) 14:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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  • Keep Sorry, new to this, didn’t realise I should have made a * and bolded my keep recommendation until I reread the guide again just now. Mea Culpa.
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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 14:40, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Nuno Pereira (footballer, born 1996) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not able to find any WP:SIGCOV of this footballer to meet requirements of WP:NSPORT or WP:GNG. (Nota bene, there's another footballer with the same name but born a different year.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:34, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 14:19, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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Article fails WP:GNG. All references listed are primary and I can't find significant coverage in reliable, secondary ones. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:35, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was Draftify‎. There's a clear consensus against keeping this in mainspace, and broad support for draftifying as an ATD. Owen× ☎ 13:54, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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Fails WP:SPORTCRIT. Google News yield no results. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 10:37, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Also nominating the following:
Josue Kongolo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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Does not pass WP:GNG. He does not have a single start in a professional football competition and the sources used do not document his notability. Maybe speedy deletion per A7 is possible. FromCzech (talk) 05:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Keep - I think for this player does pass WP:GNG with all the articles in Vietnam's big football journals about him. He recently signed a pro contract with a club in Vietnam's highest division, and is registred in the squad for the league. His pro debut will only be a matter of time. Lâm (talk) 10:24, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
As I wrote, the sources used do not document his notability. Wiki is not a player database and a few possible starts for a professional club won't change anything about that. This player has not accomplished anything yet, and we are not predicting from a crystal ball whether he will ever accomplish anything. The page can be created in a few years, when he has dozens of starts, and it will be written about something other than his first pro contract. FromCzech (talk) 11:06, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

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Does not pass WP:GNG. He does not have a single start in a professional football competition and the sources used do not document his notability in any way. Maybe speedy deletion per A7 is possible. FromCzech (talk) 05:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Comment – He's actually quite well-known in Vietnam, due to his call up to the Vietnam national under-23 football team. There are a lot of articles about him in Vietnamese, which I believe do pass the WP:GNG. But as you mentioned, he did not have a single game in a professional football competition, and also no appearance for Vietnam youth national teams. I see this article as WP:TOOSOON . I think a draft is the best solution. Lâm (talk) 06:37, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Like a single call-up to the U23 preliminary squad will make you famous in Vietnam? LOL. A draft is a reasonable option. FromCzech (talk) 06:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Yes, his case is particular. He was one the first Vietnamese diaspora player playing abroad to get a call up to the national youth team. That explains why he got a lot of attention of the media Lâm (talk) 10:35, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
@Thplam2004: Could you link here to some of the biggest articles about him? That can help editors decide his notability. --SuperJew (talk) 20:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
This article from Tiền Phong covered completely his family background, his career and his journey to get called up Vietnam U23 team. There are so many articles covering the player such as 2 , 3 , 4 and many more. In fact he was called up to the Vietnam national team in September 2023 but he withdrew the call up (source) Lâm (talk) 04:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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Kim Jong-min (footballer, born 1947) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:04, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

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2022–23 Kapfenberger SV season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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season article for second tier austrian side. has not been updated since before the season started and is clearly unfit for mainspace. I find no evidence that such an article could pass WP:GNG but should others disagree, moving to draftspace may be more appropriate. Microwave Anarchist (talk) 13:00, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages as they are also not currently fit for mainspace and show no evidence of notability:

2022–23 Grazer AK season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2022–23 FC Blau-Weiß Linz season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2022–23 Floridsdorfer AC season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2022–23 FC Admira Wacker Mödling season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2022–23 FC Liefering season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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1993 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am bundle-nominating all league season pages of the Talent League competition for deletion. This bundle incorporates the 25 articles listed below.

On balance, these articles fail WP:GNG. This competition does not garner the level of coverage or references about its seasons and results to justify having season-by-season articles. I include the italicised caveat because, as this is the main underage recruitment competition in Victoria, the league's players and structure do receive a decent amount of non-routine individual coverage, as a WP:BEFORE search will attest; but this coverage is all primarily focussed on the league's function as an under-aged talent pathway. The seasons themselves (i.e. who won/lost, grand finalists, etc.) receive only passing WP:ROUTINE coverage. I note also that 19 of the 25 articles (those from 2000–2018) are currently based entirely on a single database reference, and those which aren't are almost entirely from non-independent sources. I see no valid alternative to deletion and that all content worth saving is already found on the main Talent League page.

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are all part of the same bundle:

2000 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2001 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2002 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2003 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2004 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2005 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2006 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2007 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2008 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2009 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2010 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2011 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2012 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2013 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2014 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2015 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2016 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2017 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2018 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2019 NAB League Boys season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2020 NAB League season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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2022 NAB League Boys season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2023 Talent League Boys season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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  • Comment sorry, but that's way too much for me to work through to see if it needs deletion or not. WP:TRAINWRECK. Govvy (talk) 09:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
    @Govvy: TRAINWRECK is a term for AfDs that cover many topics, but fail because the topics are too dissimilar – some are notable, others aren't. But surely any given TAC Cup season will be about as notable as the next? What makes you think TRAINWRECK applies here? – Teratix ₵ 02:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
    • Comment it is possible that I did not make clear enough that these pages are all different seasons of the same competition with different sponsored names. Aspirex (talk) 05:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
      • Comment @Aspirex and Teratix: Because on my first look, I assumed the AfD was for two different leagues. I didn't say don't delete, I just felt it was too much on one AfD. Maybe splitting between two AfDs might have been easier to manage for some people such as myself. Govvy (talk) 19:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment there is a strong case for deletion on the face of it – I would be surprised if enough sources exist for individual seasons of a state-level underage development competition. The point Aspirex makes about TAC Cup coverage mainly focusing on individual players or general aspects of competition structure, not specific results, rings true to me. – Teratix ₵ 02:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
  • User:Aspirex, this AFD is not formatted correctly for a bundled nomination. You can't just write down a list of linked articles and consider them to be included in this nomination, our closing tool, XFDcloser will not recognize them as nominated articles. Please review the instructions at WP:AFD for nominating multiple articles and format this nomination correctly. No matter how this discussion is closed, this needs to happen. Thank you. Liz 05:10, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Aspirex, everything looks good. Liz 23:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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2017 TAC Cup Girls season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am bundle-nominating all league season pages of the Talent League Girls competition for deletion. This bundle incorporates the six articles listed below.

On balance, these articles fail WP:GNG. This competition does not garner the level of coverage or references about its seasons and results to justify having season-by-season articles. I include the italicised caveat because, as this is the main underage recruitment competition in Victoria, the league's players and structure do receive some non-routine individual coverage, as any WP:BEFORE search will attest; but this coverage is mostly focussed on the league's function as an under-aged talent pathway. The seasons themselves (i.e. who won/lost, grand finalists, etc.) receive only passing WP:ROUTINE coverage. Existing references in all six articles are sparse, and either come from databases or non-indepenent sources.

I see no valid alternative to deletion, and that all content worth saving is already found on the main Talent League Girls page.

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are all part of the same bundle of seasons:

2018 TAC Cup Girls season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2019 NAB League Girls season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2021 NAB League Girls season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2022 NAB League Girls season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2023 Talent League Girls season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Aspirex (talk) 22:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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I am bundle-nominating all league season pages of the VFL Women's competition for deletion. This bundle incorporates eight articles.

On balance, these articles fail WP:GNG, and this competition does not garner the level of coverage or references to justify having season-by-season articles. Existing references across all nine articles are almost exclusively non-independent sources (from the league's website, clubs' websites and scores databases), occasionally with a brief WP:ROUTINE article about the grand final result; in particular, although the recent articles have healthy-looking reference counts, it's largely padded by short non-independent, routine articles from club websites which fill out the tables of coaches, captains and best-and-fairest winners. WP:BEFORE searches for "VFL Women's" and "VFL Women's season", Google-filtered for news and excluding afl.com.au results, and the results are a very thin collection of local newspaper clippings which are closer to human interest stories than sports WP:SIGCOV.

I see no valid alternative to deletion, and that all content worth saving is already found on VFL Women's and List of VFL Women's premiers.

I am also nominating the following related pages under the bundle:

2017 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2018 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2019 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2021 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2022 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2023 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2024 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Aspirex (talk) 22:27, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Speedy keep: Competition receives WP:SIGCOV from what is left of the News Corporation legacy media, both at the statewide and local level. ProQuest has approx 400 keyword filtered references (there was 804 on my first pass through) for "VFL women" for the 2016 season alone, with spikes around the Grand Final and VFL/W Awards; across News, Fairfax/Nine and other Australian news sources. I find this AfD to be WP:POINTY and disingenuous. Merging these forks back into VFL Women's would result in an unweildy mess of an article. If the state-level competition of a women's Australian football competition does not warrant the little amount of referenced information currently present, are we WP:BUILDWP with useful encyclopedic content for future readers? Storm machine (talk) 11:56, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

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Keep per @Storm machine's argument. I would be concerned if an article with 40+ references can be thrown away as part of a bulk AfD without any attempt from the nominator to improve it further. What is the end goal here? Gibbsy 03:55, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
My point is the following: yes, 2023 VFL Women's season has 43 references (I assume that's the one you're referring specifically to); 37 of them are statements from club websites which serve to fill out this table of the names of captains and coaches, and this table of best and fairest winners. Every Australian rules football season from the lowest suburban/country level to the highest professional level could be written to at least this standard using a mix of club website references and WP:LOCAL newspapers, but that doesn't make them notable. What I can't find despite looking is genuine independent WP:SIGCOV of the VFL Women's which elevates this league to the point that it should have individual season articles. This is not a question of improvement – any article can be improved – it's a question of assessing the body of available references and reaching a determination of notability or lack thereof. My end goal is that this league be treated like all other low-coverage leagues in the Australian rules football Wikiproject: a main article with a history section, a list of premiers/grand finals, a list of B&Fs, and club-by-club information split out among the individual club pages. Aspirex (talk) 23:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Questions then: where are you stopping? Why do the VFL/SANFL/WAFL season articles exist in their current forms? Have any of those competitions had WP:SIGCOV to your standards since their heydays? Or has coverage retreated to the margins? If this is your baseline, then how does any sports non-top level competition fit into your ideal? Shall we inform the editors who maintain the AIHL, Hockey One, or Queensland and NSW Cup rugby league season articles of impending AfD?
The VFLW/SANFLW/WAFLW competitions easily pass WP:GNG and maintain enough coverage from what's left of the legacy media and enthusiast press to justify the level of content present to have season articles the same way that their men's equivalents do. Storm machine (talk) 10:00, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Can you link some references? As I said in the nomination, my BEFORE searches have not yielded anything that looks like independent SIGCOV. I want to know what references you're looking at to draw your conclusion (and I'm sure the closer would want to see them as well). Aspirex (talk) 21:58, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Currently have nine non-AFL/club references for the 2024 season article, which given the amount of content compares rather favourably to say 2024 Carlton Football Club season to pick an article at random. Storm machine (talk) 02:22, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Half of those nine are routine match reports on the grand final. A couple are routine reports on NSW teams playing games against VFLW teams. Cherny's article is the only one which is genuine SIGCOV, but it is a general article about AFLW and VFLW pathways - it offers scant coverage of its VFLW season. Aspirex (talk) 03:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Go nuts and add more then: , , Storm machine (talk) 03:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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