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The result was delete. -- Patar knight - /_{contributions} 06:39, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Thakshila College

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Stub and lack of sources. I've searched from google only few information and nothing. Fails WP:V ~ Junior5a (Talk) Cont 23:00, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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~~Retarget to Gampaha#Education~~Delete Nothing to say about the school that wouldn't already be included in the target article. PerWP:WITHIN, "The only information about the subject comes all from a single source" and "Only a few sentences of information can be written, and most likely, there will never be any more" Also the listing from the government shows multiple Thakshila Vidyalayas so it is not clear which one is this one. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 04:24, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

If retained, it needs to be renamed without redirect to Thakshila Maha Vidyalaya, Gampaha so as to distinguish itself from all the other Thakshila Vidyalayas that offer grades 1-13 education. Thakshila College is too common a name to focus on just one. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:51, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Also potential confusion with the similar Taxila in Pakistan which has its own colleges/schools. See Taxila Central College, Horana which uses Thakshila as an alternative spelling AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:12, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Delete. I can't see any notability. It is up to the person who wrote it to provide the sources. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 05:57, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Here are the Thakshila schools in that government listing with their census no. (search for "Thakshila" or "shila", ignore ones that say primary)

Thakshila M.V., Sri Bodhi Road, Gampaha (#01593)
Thakshila Vidyalaya, Kandy (#03390)
Thakshila Vidyalaya, Wallahagoda, Gampola (#03544)
Athugalpura Thakshila Vidyalaya, Walpolakanda, Indul Godakanda (#17137)
Kurunnankulama Thakshila M.V., Kurunnankulama, Galenbindunuwewa (#19150)
Thakshila Maha Vidyalaya, Bogas Junction, Mahvilachchiya (#19253)
Aththalagedara Thakshila Maha Vidyalaya, Aththalagedara Maliththa (#21207)

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:25, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Toshiaki Nogiwa

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My search didn't find the significant coverage in independent reliable sources needed to meet the GNG. I also don't see accomplishments that meet the standards for martial artists at WP:MANOTE. Sandals1 (talk) 22:32, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete as per nomination --Farahpoems (talk) 10:23, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete My search didn't find the coverage needed to meet WP:GNG nor do I see anything to show he meets the notability criteria for martial artists. Papaursa (talk) 16:58, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:25, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Mallika Singh

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Other than blurbs and PR pieces (many of them disguised as actual news articles), nothing in-depth about this actress. Might be a case of WP:TOOSOON, but currently meets neither WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. Onel5969 21:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete WP:TOOSOON. GenuineArt (talk) 06:00, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete per nom and above. GSS (talk|c|em) 07:30, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was Speedy deleted as a hoax. — Amakuru (talk) 22:57, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Villain-Women (Marvel Comics)

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This is unreferenced and, surprisingly for a Marvel topic, I wasn't able to find any coverage of this team elsewhere. Neither the team nor any of the agents listed are mentioned at A-Force. I don't see any mention of the team at, say Carnage (comics) or Titania (Marvel Comics). The article was draftifyed in July but copy-paste recreated without further editing in August. I think that any verifiable information should be added to A-Force instead of this article, though I couldn't verify any, but a redirect wouldn't be all that valuable since it has a parenthetical disambiguation and nothing links to it. › Mortee _talk 20:42, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete. This shouldn't be put back to Draft space either, because the nom's WP:BEFORE search indicates that it couldn't become an article no matter how much work was put into it. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:50, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Speedy Delete - I've nominated this as a blatant hoax. Kirby cannot have created in 2016 given he died in 1994, at the most blatant!--Killer Moff (talk) 12:40, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete as per nom. No evidence that this even exists. Adamtt9 (talk) 14:13, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was keep per WP:PROF – Joe (talk) 11:12, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Robert K. Dellenbach

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Non-notable subject that does not meet WP:BASIC. Coverage found in searches for independent, reliable sources is limited to minor name checks, quotations from the subject (e.g. , ), and passing mentions, none of which establish notability for Wikipedia's purposes. Furthermore, the article is entirely based upon primary sources, which also do not serve to establish notability. North America 00:10, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

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*Delete A search turned up one LDS press release and a quotation each in two Deseret News stories which do not establish notability. Fails WP:BASIC. Also, this Wiki article reads like a resumé. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 05:08, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Keep As president of what was then Alaska Methodist University, he passes Academic Notability point 6.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:48, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

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Keep: meets WP:PROF as president of Alaska Pacific University in 1975–1976: . K.e.coffman (talk) 01:58, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

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Keep As a former president of Alaska Pacific U. it appears he meets WP:NPROF. Papaursa (talk) 23:18, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) --Hammersoft (talk) 00:06, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Fjölvar

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~~Seems to be a copy paste common WP:MILL "mythological creature" article. Fails WP:GNG and has no reliable sourcing.~~AmericanAir88 02:37, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

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Comment I did a quick search and added some citations. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 15:32, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Expand. Like just about every other entity in Norse mythology, there's significant coverage to be found regarding the figure's etymology and likely comparative discussion as well. It's just a matter of digging it up. I'll check Simek, Lindow, and Orchard and it expand the article from there later today. :bloodofox: (talk) 16:00, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

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Keep now that the article has been expanded. --Ahecht (TALK
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Keep after expansion work by Frayae. - Dammit_steve (talk) 21:11, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep meets GNG now, no other reason for deletion. power~enwiki (π, ν) 15:56, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Withdrawing as the article meets GNG. Thank you Frayae. An admin can now properly close this. AmericanAir88 02:05, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:29, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Shape Security

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An advertorially-toned page on an unremarkable private company. Significant RS coverage not found; what comes up is passing mentions and / or WP:SPIP, such as self-promotional reports by the company. Does not meet WP:NCORP / WP:CORPDEPTH. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:33, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

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Delete Search finds routine coverage and promotion, not WP:SIGCOV, so fails WP:CORPDEPTH as nominator indicates. Additionally, article provides little information that is non-promotional, and engages in WP:OVERCITE to link to promotional sources. Bakazaka (talk) 21:11, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete Agree with above, references fail the criteria for establishing notability, fails WP:NCORP. HighKing 12:53, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was keep. Withdrawn by nominator. So Why 08:42, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Unavowed

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No references. Does not satisfy game notability as written. Google search finds many hits to the effect that the game exists and advertises itself, but no third-party discussion. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:20, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

I thought of correcting this article and not put it on WP:QD but Google search did not provide enough and convincing search reasons to improve it. Also the creator did not provide any sources to support content claims. Therefore, Delete. SkillsM674 (talk) 18:27, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Comment - This should either have been moved to draft space or speedy deleted. I've found about 5 articles and/or reviews that could be used to expand the article, but it's clearly not fit for the encyclopedia in the state it's currently in. Nanophosis (talk) 18:39, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Keep. It has 24 reviews on Metacritic; an abundance of RSes are therefore available. Phediuk (talk) 14:54, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep per Phediuk. Sources exist, they just have to be added. Considering that Metacritic is the fifth Google hit and the third hit is this Rock, Paper, Shotgun review, I think this nomination is a spectacular WP:BEFORE failure. Regards So Why 09:58, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
I added a couple of clearly reliable sources to the talk page for further use per WP:POTENTIAL. They should be enough to expand the article. I'll see if I can do so myself later but you are all invited to do so as well. Regards So Why 10:38, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Comment: I fixed the article up with sources (will probably nominate it for WP:GA once I fixed the rest). @Robert McClenon: Can you please withdraw this? Regards So Why 12:28, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Comment - Withdrawn because the defect has been cured by providing proper references. Robert McClenon (talk) 08:02, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. With no prejudice to recreation if real stats for this are found. -- Patar knight - /_{contributions} 20:17, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

List of OECD countries by job security

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A user, @Godotskimp, has expressed concern that this is a hoax. The source removed by the first prodder in April does not include such a statistic. The same user prodded it again in September, so I have procedurally brought it to AfD. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 18:06, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Comment - why didn't you just go for CSD? It seems to be a case of WP:G3's hoax clause. Kirbanzo (talk) 18:21, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete. Unsourced stats. Ajf773 (talk) 21:02, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete The article heavily contains original research, with no inline citations or references. KCVelaga (talk) 05:27, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete Trivial list. RaviC (talk) 09:07, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete. There's a good chance many to all of the stats here are made up on the spot. Anonymuss User (talk) 13:44, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete OR? —AE (talk • contributions) 11:24, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was Delete per discussion below Nick (talk) 16:41, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Peter Emslie

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Non-notable animator. I can't find any sources that discuss him or his works in depth and the worldcat results are largely unrelated. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:05, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Illustrator, not animator from the looks of things, but agree delete for non-notability Simonm223 (talk) 19:07, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Delete: It does not appear that there is enough comprehensive discussion on them in reliable sources to support an article, or an argument for notability either under WP:GNG or WP:NAUTHOR. Waggie (talk) 23:19, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete. I could not find any additional sources. The search results page of Worldcat is certainly not enough to justify an article. Fails WP:BIO. Brad v 00:10, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep. I do not know how the nominator looked for sources, but the first hit in Google News is an extensive article about him in the Los Angeles Times. I added it to the article. It's . Reading it, I think it alone is enough. Chrissymad, please take a look at it. And the Worlcat links are not unrelated--they're books of which heis the illustrator. There are reviews of a number of them also, and they all mention him. DGG ( talk ) 04:31, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm completely misreading that source, but that looks like an article about Dave Smith in which it mentions an illustration of him "...with Donald Duck that was made by artist Peter Emslie". I see no other reference to Emslie in that article. DGG, could you please check that article again and confirm my reading of it? Thank you. Waggie (talk) 05:34, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Supplemental: I checked the first 30 results on WorldCat very carefully looking for reviews or journalistic coverage of Peter Emslie and his works. The only thing that I see is the abstracts submitted by the publishers and a few brief user-contributed reviews from Goodreads.

I also note that a number of results are writings by different people. eg: this book where two of the authors are Peter Roach and John Emslie, and this where a completely different Peter Emslie writing about a land survey in the 1800s, and this, written by Sarah Emslie, published by Ryland Peters & Small. Waggie (talk) 06:22, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

I have checked the source. You are completely correct. I seem to have seen what i hoped to see. Agreed that the reviews are unsubstantial. I've changed to Delete. DGG ( talk ) 11:35, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

DGG For what it's worth when I first found that source (which I did well before I nominated) I thought it was going to be a great piece about him, as it turns out, not so much...I did a lot of digging in papers too and found nothing worthwhile. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 12:54, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Delete. nothing substantial found . DGG ( talk ) 11:36, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete - I can't find substantial coverage either. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:14, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete I can't find any secondary sources. The article has been here for 14 years and just recently got it's first attempt at a source, and that's not really even a source, just a search result.Jacona (talk) 17:35, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete fails WP:CREATIVE, passing mentions in a few sources (including Mouse Planet) further cements this as a delete for me. JC7V-constructive zone 03:56, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. -- Patar knight - /_{contributions} 20:17, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Sedrakyan's triangle

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In the words of the article creator, HaykHS "It is a new result (2018), that's why secondary sources are not available at this point of time." Without secondary sources, it does not pass WP:GNG. Note also the similarity of the article creator with the name of the author of the primary reference, and the fact that the same editor has mainly contributed to this and the two other articles Nairi Sedrakyan and Sedrakyan's inequality. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete - WP:OR, specifically WP:PRIMARY. This could be a self-made mathematical construct, as it appears at least one major contributor is close to the subject. It also fails WP:GNG and likely any other notability policy that could apply here. Kirbanzo (talk) 18:10, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete per all the above. XOR'easter (talk) 18:30, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Dear David, yes you are right. I have contributed only to these 3 articles, I would like to contribute to some other articles also, but even these 3 articles took a lot of time. These were my father's life-long results achieved during more than 20 years starting from 1997. Is it bad that I shared it from my own account? I do not see what is the point stating that the editor (me) is related to the article if I have provided all reliable sources and wrote it from the independent point of view. Could you please delete those two comments from the other two articles? If you want to check the validity of the statements, you have all the sources please go ahead and check them, but it makes no sense to write that as the editor is related to the subject than maybe it is not trustworthy information. The last result (triangle) was obtained 2 months ago. I simply shared it because it is extremely useful new method. It makes no sense to call it a self-made result, because it was published in Springer, which means it was approved by professionals as a scientific work. It also makes no sense to explain why is it important (secondary souces can be added later on, no need to delete the article). Please try to understand the content, I am sure you will see my point. Thank you very much for your time and comments. HaykHS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.254.249 (talk) 20:31, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

If you look at Wikipedia:Notability you will see the criteria for inclusion in wikipedia. It is a higher bar than many would like but is set high to keep the encyclopedia to a manageable size. Even in mathematics there is in the order of 100,000 papers published each year, it would be impossible to have articles on all of these. Hence a more stringent criteria is needed. So we require "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Papers by the author don't count as they are not independent. For academics this will mean lots of other people will have cited the work. It is impossible to gauge whether there will be significant coverage in third party sources when a paper has not yet appeared in print. Maybe in a few years time this paper will attract this coverage but it is too soon now. Documenting you fathers achievements is a worthy thing to do, but wikipedia is not the place. I personally have a page on my website listing all my fathers research work. There I can keep it without worrying about other people editing or deleting the page. --Salix alba (talk): 07:16, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Delete too soon to gauge notability. --Salix alba (talk): 07:16, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete - WP:TOOSOON. Needs traction in the field and the literature first. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 09:40, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was keep. -- Patar knight - /_{contributions} 20:17, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Edward Weng

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Seems to fail WP:NATHLETE due to no credible claims of significance. Kirbanzo (talk) 17:43, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Keep - Weng has played in the Nigerian Professional Football League, which according to WP:FPL is a fully professional league and thus according to WP:NFOOTY is notable enough for an article. Inter&anthro (talk) 22:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep - meets WP:NFOOTBALL; needs improving, not deleting. Giant Snowman 08:14, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep passes WP:NFOOTY as has played in a fully pro league, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 17:07, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep passes WP:NFOOTY.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:31, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep per WP:NFOOTBALL due to participation here in the pro league of the country. --DBig Xrayᗙ 12:57, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. -- Patar knight - /_{contributions} 20:19, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

CS Games

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Declined PROD. This is not notable; it fails WP:GNG, WP:NEVENT, etc. as there is very little coverage in reliable sources of this competition. wumbolo ^^^ 17:00, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete per nom - no notable Ghits, seems to be a non-notable computer science competition. Kirbanzo (talk) 17:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
@Kirbanzo: This is not a Counter-Strike event; you have to better adjust your search parameters (searching for "CS Games" is not good enough). Try this search for example. wumbolo ^^^ 17:50, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Despite that, point still stands as still no non-notable sources. The blunder has little impact on my vote as such. Kirbanzo (talk) 18:07, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Delete Some adjustments to google search still don't turn up enough to constitute WP:SUSTAINED coverage. Simonm223 (talk) 18:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete for notability issues. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:33, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete Couldn't find a single article about this thing. Blatantly promotional. – FenixFeather 21:10, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:29, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Juliet Tablak

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Non-notable actress who's biggest claim to fame was a minor 4 episode role in Married With Children. Can't find anything significant or in depth. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:41, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete Nothing that will convince us that the subject has passed WP:NACTOR. GenuineArt (talk) 05:22, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete: Obviously fails the WP:GNG and WP:NACTRESS. -- LACaliNYC ✉ 21:05, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was keep. Whether this should be a list or not is left to discretion of editors. -- Patar knight - /_{contributions} 20:19, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Competitions and prizes in artificial intelligence

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Basically a WP:CATALOG without any sourced entries, and the whole article isn't based on a notable topic. PROD was declined "given government involvement", but the article is still promotional. wumbolo ^^^ 16:22, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Keep WP:CATALOG is irrelevant as this is not a sales catalog. The topic passes WP:GNG and WP:LISTN – see Artificial Intelligence And Information-control Systems Of Robots or The Nexus between Artificial Intelligence and Economics, for example. Andrew D. (talk) 20:32, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep The article of course has some useful encylopedic content. As per Andrew, it passes GNG and LISTN. KCVelaga (talk) 05:29, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep It has fair spread on encyclopedic knowledge, its informative and well sourced. Keep. scope_creep (talk) 08:41, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep but - Change it into a list. The subject itself is not a topic of notability. Hence, this article may fall in WP:SYNTH. If any organization publishes a list then that list might become notable if it meets Notability guidelines. Please refer H:LIST for further guidance.--Wikishagnik (talk) 11:24, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comment It is well written as it is. It a presents a series of competitions and prizes and it is closed, meaning no extraneous spam or promotional junk. Why change it into a list. I wont add anything to improve structural layout and will lose information scope_creep (talk)
Keep: meets WP:GNG / WP:LISTN. I'm neutral on the move. Fine as is, it seems. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:09, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep per WP:GNG and also I agree that WP:LISTN is satisfied. the List is encyclopaedic and notable. . If there are concerns on promo content, then a clean up tag is the answer, not the AfD tag. --DBig Xrayᗙ 12:55, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. -- Patar knight - /_{contributions} 20:19, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Agami Hando

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Footballer who fails WP:NFOOTY as has never played in a fully-professional league. Prod removed by article creator (who seems to be creating articles on non-notable footballers for promotional purposes) without a rationale. Number 5 7 15:40, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 16:11, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete - per nominator. FkpCascais (talk) 17:42, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:25, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete per nom. S.A. Julio (talk) 00:16, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete per NFOOTY. शिव साहिल/Shiv Sahil (talk) 17:48, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Comment One of the creator's articles was deleted as a blatant hoax and a second appears to probably be as well. Are we sure this guy even exists? Smartyllama (talk) 14:51, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

He was covered in Bosnian press here so I'm assuming he's probably real. SportingFlyer talk 00:55, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

He seems to be a footballer tying to make a living, and thought of using Wikipedia to promote himself to get more chances to get some contact in some better club. FkpCascais (talk) 01:08, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

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Mark Rhea

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Non-notable local stage performer / director. Not convinced the subject meets ANYBIO. Sources provided within the article, as of this nomination, only state that the subject is a key figure of a certain theater, but do not offer significant coverage. Strikerforce 16:37, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

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Keep I'm the author of this bio page. Mark Rhea is a notable figure in the Washington, DC, theater community, which is the 2nd largest theater community in the United States. He founded and runs a professional theater company that has received 50 nominations for the Helen Hayes Award, which is the region's highest theater honor. He himself has been nominated and has won the award. I'm continuing to build out/edit this page as I discover more sources. (unsigned comment made by User:Rider4151 E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:38, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Keep The multiple nominations for the Helen Hayes Awards should establish notability. But, why only one nomination listed here: Helen Hayes Awards Resident Production That doesn't include the 2018 nomination, so perhaps it's the Wikipedia Page that is incomplete. Ross-c (talk) 08:06, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Comment Are the Helen Hayes Awards themselves notable enough to establish notability for Mr. Rhea, however? Going a step farther, is the fact that he was nominated (but apparently has not won) enough to establish independent notability beyond BLP1E, or perhaps more concisely, one event multiple times? Strikerforce 14:29, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@Strikerforce:The Helen Hayes Awards have their own Wikipedia page, and looking through press it does seem to be notable, but the awards are Washington specific. Washington however is a major world city and important in the theatre world. So, I'm for now leaning towards considering them. Multiple nominations for a significant award is generally considered to be enough for notability as per WP:ANYBIO. That's the best I can do. If you or anyone would like to argue further that the Helen Hayes Awards should not be considered significant then I'll read it and follow up your references. However, just asking the question isn't enough by itself to change my opinion/vote. I, personally, would need more. Ross-c (talk) 14:38, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@Ross-c: Oh, I wasn't trying to change your opinion. I was simply asking the question because I truly wasn't sure, myself. I would think that a localized award - "major world city" or otherwise - would still come up short for establishing notability for a single individual, but that's just my two cents on it. I wanted to ask the question in hopes of not only getting deeper into your thoughts on the matter, but to also hopefully spur on the thoughts of others that may choose to contribute to this discussion. Strikerforce 15:05, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@Strikerforce: You are welcome to try and change my opinion. This is one such case where such is definitely possible. One thing you might want to do is search through previous AfDs which mention the Helen Hayes Awards and see how seriously people have taken them in the past. Ross-c (talk) 15:11, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

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Delete In my opinion, doesn't really fulfill any of WP:ENT. The sources are also very lackluster and don't represent significant coverage. I looked around and couldn't really find any coverage from mainstream sources. In the end, just not very notable. – FenixFeather 17:48, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
MERGE (along with some content) to Keegan Theatre, which he founded. Noting that the coverage is sparse and local, and that the Helen Hayes Awards is local to D.C., and that the Keegan is not one of D.C. larger local theater companies (some D.C. companies regularly stage premiers of new plays that go on to be staged in other cites; some launch actors careers; Ari Roth, became notable running D.C.'s Theater J. I have just searched, and I can't find mentions of Rhea outside the D.C. media. In particular, directors of some D.C. theaters stage productions for which their directors get written up they the Times and other NYC media papers that follow theater. I am just not seeing notability here. I am arguing MERGE on teh strength of ongoing, INDEPTH coverage over many years in the DC media of Rhea in the context of the Keegan. E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:42, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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@Ross-c:. I'm a long-time D.C. theatre-goer and I'm struggling to see what you're seeing here. The Hayes is, after all, a D.C. award. What I'd like to see is a profile of Rhea - not of the Keegan, and some coverage that is not local. That's a standard, by the way, that get applied at AfD to people in other cities, including NYC. The sole mention of Rhea I find outside the Beltway is from the far norther fringe of metro DC's reach, Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, where he directed a summer play in 2013. That's all I can find. Can't find a profile of Keegan, although articles about the theatre mention/quote Rhea, WaPo: Small space, big dreams for Keegan Theatre, Pressley, Nelson. The Washington Post; Washington, D.C. 30 June 2013: E.5., What are you seeing that I'm not? I can see merging him to a paragraph on the Keegan page. Could you see that? E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:36, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Delete – fails WP:GNG. Redditaddict6 9 19:28, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

I think MERGE is a better option. New archive searches bring up a good deal of coverage of Rhea in the D.C. media, going back decades. He founded and has run Keegan Theatre for decades. During that period D.C. became a major live theater town. And as per WP:PRESERVE.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:45, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. -- Patar knight - /_{contributions} 20:18, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Ozark (TV series) Opening Credit Symbols

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This content originally appeared in Ozark (TV series) before being moved to a separate article. I believe the content, by itself, as in its own article, does not meet notability guidelines and is purely trivial. The article contains two references, one of which appears to be a blog; and the article essentially regurgitates what is in the second source. I tried proposing a merge of the content, but that seems to have gotten no traction. I also left a message at WP:TV but that also got no responses. So I'm trying AFD. This content has been added in the past, and has been deleted several times – . I don't believe an extensive table of content explaining symbols in a television series and their meaning is notable. My suggestion was to expand the section about the symbols in the parent article, and giving more examples of certain symbols, but not list every single one and their supposed meaning. The article is also improperly named, though I have no idea what a proper name would be; and incorrectly copy-and-pasted the navbox and categories from the parent article. Drovethrughosts (talk) 15:10, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete Trivial content that belongs on TV Tropes. Fails WP:GNG. – FenixFeather 18:04, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete Even TVTropes would remove this; this is like the horror that was an article for Disney Junior logo variations, which puts it well within the embarrassing category of FANCRUFT. Only the Ozark Wikia should care about this in anyway. Nate • (chatter) 18:23, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete per above. power~enwiki (π, ν) 15:58, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete per above —Joeyconnick (talk) 06:03, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. Yunshui _水 09:48, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Island Groceries

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Delete - fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG, non-notable online grocery store. No notable Ghits. Kirbanzo (talk) 18:24, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete Clearly fails GNG. I don't see any third-party reliable source that might help in expansion and establish notability. KCVelaga (talk) 05:31, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. Yunshui _水 09:48, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Fatih Başkaya

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Nothing that meets notability requirements. Created by SPA. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 10:16, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Delete non-notable chancer. -Roxy, the dog. wooF 10:20, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete and Salt - fails to meet the criteria of WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. A secondary school award and 3rd place in a high school competition are not significant awards, and the article lacks any reliable sources with in-depth coverage about the topic. A Google search just shows a few listings in common online databases, social media and job portals. Probably worth salting: biographical information for the same topic by the same editor has been repeatedly recreated at Mansger. GermanJoe (talk) 12:17, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
delete as obviously lacking notable adult accomplishments. Mangoe (talk) 16:31, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete and Salt. GermanJoe makes the case well, and I have nothing to add. Edwardx (talk) 16:39, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete - non-notable person who doesn't meet WP:GNG. Adamtt9 (talk) 14:17, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was Draftify. Clear consensus to get it out of mainspace. Going with draft vs a straight delete per WP:ATD. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:18, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Glover's Medicated Salt Cake

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It existed but nothing more.Nothing on JSTor or PUBMED or Highbeam et al....Advertisements about the product are existent at this link. ∯WBG 09:54, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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delete Other than the original patent, I can't find anything that talks about this at all. Mangoe (talk) 16:34, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
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Cunard (talk) 07:56, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Move to draft and let's do some research. Apparently I looked into this somewhat during the previous AfD and found other "Glover's" medicinal products, but was unable to connect those to the one in this article. However, if there is a notable company behind this product, we should expand this into an article on that company. bd2412 T 12:36, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete. Does not appear to be a notable product. Google Books finds only patent office records. News, newspapers, scholar, and books are equally unavailing; seems to be a well before the internet thing. Motivation for the article seems to be that the displays for the product are collected as antiques. Pictures may well be useful at appropriate articles; we apparently do not have an article on agricultural salt blocks. Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 18:10, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) KCVelaga (talk) 00:21, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Toks

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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (companies) requirement. This was prodded twice (ping User:SwisterTwister. The refs are very poor - self-ref, mention in passing in some marketing research, and a de facto press release masquerading as an article. I am not seeing anything else. WP:NOTYELLOWPAGES. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:37, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Keep. A chain of nearly 200 restaurants is clearly notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:37, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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According to which policy? Please point out the part of WP:NORG that talks about size. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

We don't need a policy for everything. We just need the application of common sense. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:29, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Keep: Found a few articles that talk about Toks (beyond simple mentions): , , , , , , , , , , , , and many others. Most of them talk about it's growth, business strategies, and current status. Please feel free to ping me if you need a text translated. MX (✉ • ✎) 13:11, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Need more time, but I will expand the article. MX (✉ • ✎) 21:55, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Keep Went through above sources by MX and they clearly show detailed coverage, chain of over 100 restaurants.–Ammarpad (talk)

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) KCVelaga (talk) 00:20, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Roshani Chokshi

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I created this article in October 2017, but am now thinking it was WP:TOOSOON and I'm not sure there is WP:SIGCOV. Looking for more recent coverage did give me an LA Times article from April this year, but I can't access it as I'm in the EU. Tacyarg (talk) 09:34, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Keep I added the essay Nom mentions to the page, it's an essay by an author in the same genre Chokshi writes in, not a reported article, but, still, the Los Angeles Times. Also just added the review that ran in the New York Times. I can see more sources in a search on her name, and her debut book did win prizes. I appreciate article creator's revisiting the notability quesiton, but I think we're there.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:54, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, E.M.Gregory - I think her first novel was a finalist rather than a winner? Tacyarg (talk) 19:00, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

I'm looking at the reviews (of which I added only a couple to the page,) and at articles about her form which page can - an d should - be expanded. Passes WP:AUTHOR.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Keep per E.M.Gregory. Satisfies WP:AUTHOR. James500 (talk) 10:38, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was Wrong venue. User pages can be nominated at WP:MFD, but in this case, I'm going to nominate it for WP:G11. (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 09:54, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

User:Dev Foundation

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No sources, nothing but promotion. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 08:07, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Speedy, but this is not an article but a userpage. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:39, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. Yunshui _水 09:46, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Zobo Funn Band

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Unsourced band article, fails WP:MUSIC. » Shadowowl | talk 16:29, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

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Delete. Fails WP:V. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:41, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete No reliable sources found to establish notability. Search results only show YouTube links, other music listings. Fails WP:GNG. KCVelaga (talk) 05:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. Yunshui _水 09:45, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

1776 (company)

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promotional article on non notable company. Fails NCORP. The only RS is a brief mention of a visit from a dignitary. Article mostly written by single purpose editor, after prev version by 4 successive spa's was deleted. DGG ( talk ) 06:03, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete. Standard variety spam. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete looks like an advertisement Smallbones_(smalltalk) 03:24, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete - not only looks like an advert, it is an advert. Velella 21:36, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete as per previous comments. --MarioGom (talk) 22:10, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
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Delete Spam and an advertisement. Fails WP:PROMO AmericanAir88 00:31, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. Yunshui _水 09:45, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Magnificent Seven (business schools)

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Article lacks sufficient independent sources to establish the notability of the subject ElKevbo (talk) 05:40, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

At a minimum it should probably be M7 (business schools) since there seems to be some disagreement on whether it is Magnificent or Magic 7 or some other M word. A Forbes article from December 2015 uses the term M7 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattsymonds/2015/12/30/the-sum-of-all-the-business-school-rankings-of-2015/#653037e45637), but, I couldn't find much earlier. I couldn't seem to find it in a google books search. --Erp (talk) 06:19, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Please note that the "Forbes article" is really an "article written by a Forbes contributor" so it's essentially a blog post or editorial that is not endorsed by Forbes editors. ElKevbo (talk) 12:39, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

I was mostly trying to date earliest use. This has not been a term used for long and the top seven schools is almost certain to change over time (unlike terms like 'Ivy League' which have been around for a while and aren't rank dependent). The major user of the term seems to be a web site Poets & Quants. I'm inclined to Delete.--Erp (talk) 14:04, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Delete. Fails Wikipedia:Notability (neologisms)... errr, I mean WP:GNG. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:47, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
delete just marketing crap sourced to crappy blogs, a Forbes contributor, and the schools themselves, that has been spammed into each of the relevant business school pages as well as this page being created, all by a determined user named "M7bswiki" (now renamed to Genericusername9631. I had, btw, tagged this for speedy deletion as spam, and M7bswiki, in violation of the WP:SPEEDY policy, stripped the tag here. Universities themselves (and their contractors) as well as alum are some of the most tenacious abusers of WP for promotion; their reputations are their main selling point and they see WP as a vehicle for saying How Great They Are. We have an essay just for them: WP:BOOSTER. This is entirely typical of that genre. Jytdog (talk) 12:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Cringe. Jytdog has constantly been intimidating and harassing my page as if he's an administrator with the intent to finally prove his unshaken and belief that I'm a paid advertiser. What an obnoxious, tumultuous user. Why don't you shove your "righteous duty to uphold the five pillars of Wikipedia" right up your ass. As for the page, it's up for the Wikipedia community to decide whether to delete (and surprise, I'm not anal about it), but the information I provided has been there for several years long before my participation in Wikipedia. To sum up, I have no affiliation with any of the schools mentioned and could not care if the community decides to delete; what bothers me is the persistent online harassment by a particular disruptive user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Genericusername9631 (talk • contribs) 14:35, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete - Reviewing strictly for notability, this fails WP:GNG. The references included on the page are not reliable. Even the Forbes piece is written by a contributor so it needs to be taken more of an opinion piece than a reliable source. The others are not independent as they are from university websites who are part of the terminology. I found a few references such as Financial Times which verify the term is used, but there is nothing out there that gives any depth to the term to meet notability guidelines. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:50, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete. Marketing crap, towards manufacturing some elitist cachet. I never heard of this term, and I would have if it had any merit. --Doncram (talk) 07:00, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete Mainly sourced by Forbes, Poets & Quants user-generated contributors and MBA promotional websites. Also potentially confusing with some non-notable organizations like M7 Financial (now mbaMission, founded by Jeremy Shinewald) It is not clear which poll of the List of United States graduate business school rankings determines M7 and whether membership can change. There's M7 stuff in each of the business school articles, so that should be scrubbed depending on the results of this AFD. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:57, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete - marketing crap. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 02:31, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. Yunshui _水 09:44, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Madness: Their Nightmare, My Reality

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Does not meet WP:GNG, there does not appear to be any mention of the book outside of ecommerce sites, self-published, and the editor that both created the page and has contributed the most to it has not responded to a conflict of interest tag on their talk page. Rosguill 03:58, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

~~Speedy~~ Strong delete, noting that this was a AfC submission declined twice in March and once in August. The notability and promotionality concerns of the AfC reviewers were not at all addressed (in fact, the article was not substantially changed since shortly before the first review) and was moved to mainspace without satisfying inclusion criteria. I've found no coverage besides listings where the book is sold, on Amazon, etc. Pretty much blatant self-promotion, and unlikely to be improved. — Alpha3031 (t • c) 05:00, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- (1) CSD G13 does not apply to this page. CSD G13 only applies to abandoned drafts or submissions in the draft space or user space. It does not apply to any page in the mainspace, or any page that has not been abandoned. (2) There is no promotion in this article, which appears to be neutrally written. James500 (talk) 10:26, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
  James500, I am aware that G13 does not apply. I think it's almost certain that this will fall under WP:SNOW though. If people don't agree, obviously I'd be wrong, but unfortunately, I feel the articles fate will be exactly the same as the poor snowball. I guess using that as the first response to the AfD is a bit crystal-y though :/ Probably should have just called it strong delete instead. — Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:14, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

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Delete. I wish the author well, but there's just nothing out there to show that this book is notable enough to pass WP:NBOOK. ReaderofthePack (｡◕‿◕｡) 21:05, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete. The sources in the article are clearly not enough to satisfy WP:GNG or WP:NBOOK, and I haven't been able to find any coverage in reliable sources. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 23:01, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
I am unable to find this book in WorldCat. James500 (talk) 00:41, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete. Book does not pass WP:NBOOK.Auldhouse (talk) 16:25, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete as per above - fails WP:NBOOK. Jmertel23 (talk) 16:57, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Comment - The username of the article author is the same as the initials of the book's author, and the account is a WP:SPA; leads me to believe the article is WP:PROMOTION. Jmertel23 (talk) 17:05, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Jytdog (talk) 17:09, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Yakult

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This is a blatant advertisement cited mostly to the company websites, then to primary sources from the biomedical literature (which are invalid per WP:MEDRS but common as dirt among people who shill "health" products like this). There is one government source that is used in violation of the WP:SYN policy to talk about sugar content. I tagged it for speedy and that was stripped. This should not be polluting mainspace - it serves the company, not people trying to learn. Please shovel this dogshit off our sidewalk so innocent people don't step in it. Jytdog (talk) 03:46, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Comment Without judging the state of the article as-is, it does look like there may be some other sources out there. Here's one from Express criticizing probiotic drinks, with much of the attention directed at Yakult; here's another one from Today talking about the product getting a sales boost from a recent TV series, and a similar one from news.com.au. Here's Science Daily reporting a study from World Journal of Gastroenterology, but I am not familiar with WP:MEDRS to know if that is acceptable. PohranicniStraze (talk) 05:56, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep This is a major brand and there are numerous more sources out there for it. Insofar as it makes health claims, that's just like numerous other food and drink brands – "Guinness is good for you"; Special K is "full of goodness"; "A Mars a day helps you work, rest and play"; "Red Bull gives you wings", &c. I myself recently started an article about quite a lethal concoction which was sold as a big business for many years – Godfrey's Cordial. We should have articles about all of these as, otherwise, readers will mainly be left with the real adverts. Andrew D. (talk) 06:30, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep ("snow"): This is a clearly notable product, and without looking very carefully, the article certainly does not look like spamvertising. (Disclaimer: my father-in-law worked for them.) Imaginatorium (talk) 06:41, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep I found significant coverage of the company in the New York Times, and Fortune, and in Milk: Beyond the Dairy: Proceedings of the Oxford Symposium on Food and Cookery 1999, and in Advanced Dairy Chemistry Volume 3. This is a large multinational company with a long history, and this encyclopedia ought to have a policy compliant article about it. Just remove the promotional content and anything that violates MEDRS. Cullen Let's discuss it 07:03, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Comment The issue obviously isn't notability for company or product, as even the most casual English-language search reveals a popular product and a company with a colorful history: . Jytdog rightly points out that the issue is WP:PROMO. Would taking out the entire "Nutritional Value" section, the sentences on cosmetics and chemotherapy, and the "marketed in different sizes" paragraph address the main promotional concern, and leave a workable article to fill out with easily-located WP:RS-sourced information about the subject? Bakazaka (talk) 07:24, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep but tag as promotional or rewrite. I agree with Bakazaka, the company/product passes WP:NORG, it is just not neutral. That can be fixed with tags, no need for nuking. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep. You're joking, right? This stuff is everywhere. Clearly notable product. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:39, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep Clearly notable as can be seen by the number of sources on the company, ranging from its product, reference in popular culture, to scientific research - just a few here - (I even know people whose scientific research in a top academic institution was funded by the company, and their research wasn't about the company's products but basic science). Easily satisfies WP:GNG. Any concerns about promotion can be fixed, and there are also review articles on such product in scientific journals if there is a need to fix any claims about its health benefit. Hzh (talk) 10:42, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep C'mon, Jytdog; if there is problematic, poorly-sourced content in an article like this, you should just blank it. AFDs like this are just going to be used by the "keepist" editors as a defense when they are ultimately brought to task at ANI for their own atrocious, counter-policy behaviour, and while this AFD doesn't stand a chance of accomplishing its stated goal of removing a currently-bad article from the mainspace, it does stand a fairly good chance of drawing the attention of bad editors who might try to revert any attempt to remove what problematic content is there. See the post-AFD histories of Korean influence on Japanese culture and Mottainai, both of which were also about Japanese topics that are "well-known" (or at least grossly misunderstood) to Anglo-American pop culture, for examples of this. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:17, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep, a household name that brand. We shouldn't be nominating such well-known companies. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:21, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
the !votes here are very surprising to me. Remove the content sourced to spam, the content sourced to the primary medical sources and there is almost nothing left. This is a pile of dogshit on the sidewalk. If people want to write a real article on this, please do so. But I bet not a single one of the !voters here will clean up this dogshit. Nope, you will give your !vote and leave the shit here for other people to step in. OK I will pause and test that assumption by going and looking. And.... yep. Oh User:Chiswick Chap removed a couple of specks of shit. Goody for them. Shame on every one of you. Jytdog (talk) 17:06, 5 September 2018 (UTC) (strike unhelpful venting Jytdog (talk) 00:20, 8 September 2018 (UTC))

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) wumbolo ^^^ 08:25, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Oleg Viktorovich Maltsev

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It seems that this article does not have reliable sources. Professor Massimo Introvigne and CESNUR sources seem to be affiliated, as Massimo Introvigne and Oleg Maltsev are partners. --Russians Don`t give up (talk) 23:21, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

The article should obviously be kept. If there are other sources about criticism against O.V. Maltsev they should be quoted, but there is no doubt that he is known internationally and his work has been discussed in respected academic and non-academic publications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 萧剑 (talk • contribs) 21:00, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
This seems ridiculous to me. Professor Massimo Introvigne is one of the most well-known scholars in the field of religious studies and there is no evidence whatsoever that he and Oleg Maltsev are “partners.” A simple look at the “Journal of CESNUR” would show that it has published articles on a wide variety of subjects, by luminaries in the field such as J. Gordon Melton and University of Bordeaux’ Bernadette Rigal-Cellard. Articles quoted from the “Journal of CESNUR” are by other authors too, including PierLuigi Zoccatelli, who is professor of Sociology of Religions at the Catholic University of Turin, Pontifical Salesian University and psychologist Raffaella Di Marzio, who is the author of several books and articles. Are they all “partners” of Oleg Maltsev? The article also relies on an entry on the Applied Sciences Association, the organization founded by Maltsev, in the online encyclopedia World Religions and Spirituality Project . The article is by the same Massimo Introvigne, but the World Religions and Spirituality Project is a peer-reviewed publication at Virginia Commonwealth University and certainly does not select its topics lightly. “Russians don’t give up” seem to represent the position by some Russian milieus regarding Maltsev as the leader of a “cult.” This position is obviously part of what makes Maltsev newsworthy (and studied by scholars internationally) and is mentioned and discussed in the article. User: AidaYoung —Preceding undated comment added 13:39, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- How would you comment on these: 1 source, 2 source. They are also friends on Facebook. And why is it that Professor Introvigne visits Odessa at the invitation of Oleg Maltsev? We also see that Massimo Introvigne lectures people that have relation to Oleg Maltsev and his organization. Here Maltsev calls him a friend. And please don’t blame me, I am simply a Wikipedia user just the way you are.-Russians Don`t give up (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:44, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Deleting would be a mistake. The page is balanced and includes criticism. Massimo Introvigne is a famous scholar of religion but there are other sources too. I recommend to keep the page. --Le luxembourgeois —Preceding undated comment added 17:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- I do not think that other sources are sufficient to indicate the Notability. I think this is a promotional article, probably created for a price.-Russians Don`t give up (talk) 18:06, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
I vote against the deletion. There are multiple scholarly sources in this article, and all are academic publications (apart from the National Geographic, which is not academic but a well-known publication as well). The sources, taken together, evidence that Maltsev is internationally studied, discussed (and criticized) in his field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma1990227 (talk • contribs) 06:25, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
With all due respect, as the person who created the entry, I found this discussion increasingly bizarre. Simply Googling “Massimo Introvigne” would show that he has lectured, has been interviewed by, and is friend on Facebook (where he has thousands of friends) with Catholic cardinals, Protestant bishops, Buddhist monks, and founders of a dozen religious movements. This is common for sociologists of religions, whose method of work is to visit groups and interview people, as it is normal for famous scholars to be invited by different people in different countries to lecture. With Russians Don’t give up’s criteria, no article ever written by a sociologist of religion should be a reliable source for Wikipedia. It also seems that Russians Don’t give up is not familiar with how peer-reviewed scholarly publications, such as the encyclopedia World Religions and Spirituality Project and The Journal of CESNUR and other academic journals work. Even assuming that Massimo Introvigne had biases in favor of Maltsev, he should still have passed the peer review of other academics, which is much more strict and fastidious than those outside the academia may believe. Again, the article certainly relies on works by Masimo Introvigne (undoubtedly, a leading world specialist when it comes to cults), but also on international media and works by other scholars. I am just a graduate student but have made since I was in high school quite a few editing in Wikipedia and find both preposterous and offensive to be accused of creating “promotional articles for a price.” I believe that reading the article would speak for itself. On the other hand, I do not find any editing done by Russians Don’t give up. User:Aidayoung —Preceding undated comment added 00:07, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
Based on my experience and research, and as confirmed by other editors above, Massimo Introvigne is a reliable scholar who produces literature that is well-respected by the community. I have seen his work being used in many other pages, and to delete this page just on the basis of one individual questioning his notability would not be just. He has written various articles that evoke intelligent and sound commentary on various subjects.Nonchalant77 (talk) 00:19, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
It seems to me that this discussion is deviating from its original purpose. Here, we discuss whether a page on Oleg Viktorovich Maltsev should be kept. We are not discussing whether Massimo Introvigne is a good scholar or a bad scholar or is biased in favor of Maltsev. I don’t believe he is, as his articles on Maltsev also document the criticism he has received and are otherwise well written in a typically academic style, but this is, after all, immaterial. Since there is no doubt that Introvigne is a famous scholar, and that he writes for prestigious presses and journals, once he has written something about Maltsev, this something becomes part of the scientific knowledge about Maltsev and is therefore a quotable source. Criticism of Introvigne is surely legitimate but has very few to do with the question whether Maltsev (not Introvigne) is well-known internationally. That Maltsev is the subject of scholarly studies is a fact - the motivations of those who wrote these studies and their quality have presumably been checked in the peer review processes, but calling them into question now does not make Maltsev less well-known. This applies to Introvigne and to the other scholars who have written about Maltsev, and to the journals that published their articles. A very suspicious fellow may argue that all of them are “friends” of Maltsev (although in this case why they also report on criticism of him is unclear). My point is that these conspiracy theories are not the point. Whatever the motivations for scholars and journalists to write about Maltsev, or everybody else, once their articles are published, and the more so if they are published in peer-reviewed journals and Web sites, they become part of the sources generally available to the scholarly community and the public opinion, and in this case they are enough to establish the relevance of the article. Aidayoung (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:49, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
Why other scientists don't write about Oleg Maltsev? Basically the whole article is based on the information which comes from Massimo Introvigne. It seems to me that users: Aidayoung, Le luxembourgeois and Nonchalant77 are related to each other, they have never participated in the discussions about deletion of other pages, but they gathered here having a minimal contribution to the Wikipedia. Probably these accounts should be checked by Checkusers --Russians Don`t give up (talk) 10:54, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
- Again, I am at loss to understand what exactly he is talking about. I have contributed to Wikipedia for many years and created a good number of pages, primarily in my specialized field, East Asian Religions and culture, but also in other fields related to religion. Nonetheless, the comment is interesting. Claiming that I “have a minimal contribution to Wikipedia” shows that this guy or lady is not really familiar with Wikipedia and joined for different purposes than honestly contributing to it. I have also no idea who the other users who participated in the discussion are. Checkusers by administrators are welcome. Again, it is not true that the article is based on one source only, and again the critic does not seem to understand how peer review works in academic sources Aidayoung (talk) 8:44, 25 August 2018, EST
  - "Russians Don't give up" seems to be exercising a frail attempt to discredit those who desire to keep this page and painting an image of collusion when there is none. A checkuser may be done to discredit this accusation. The argument is simply strong on the notability of Maltsev, and there are enough references to support this fact. A case in point is Mysticism, the Esoteric Paradigm and Oleg Maltsev by PierLuigi Zocatelli, who described in detail Maltsev's contribution to scholarship about the esoteric tradition. It seems to me that "Russians don't give up" is the one with the agenda to delete this page, stopping at nothing and making empty statements in order to achieve his goal.Nonchalant77 (talk) 21:41, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
    - Let's stop discussing me and discuss the compliance of the article with the rules. If you remove Introvigne sources, then there will almost no article. I will check in what are other articles with professor's sources-Russians Don`t give up (talk) 22:46, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Delete. The main source is affiliated. It looks like Aidayoung uses sockpuppets.--Marsellus W (talk) 00:02, 28 August 2018
- What main source? There are 37 quotes in the article, and 11 are from Massimo Introvigne, an eminent scholar who is not "affiliated" with Maltsev in any sense of the world. The others, i.e. the majority, are from respected sources other than Introvigne. It seems to me that a couple of Russian users believe that, when an author is controversial, the page should be deleted. In fact, controversies should be taken into account (as I believe I did) but a controversial author does not become less noteworthy because he or she is controversialAidayoung (talk) 02:13, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
- PS I am deadly against using sockpuppets. Aidayoung (talk) 02:33, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
- Update: The sockpuppet investigation has obviously been closed quickly . It was another attempt to harass people who strive to create articles based on academic sources, which for somebody seems to be a high crime here Aidayoung (talk) 01:25, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
There is no notability. I know how scientific reviews are done. It is strange that in addition to Massimo Introvigne, no one else is particularly interested in the scientific work of Oleg Maltsev.Night of the Raven (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:24, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
These users keep repeating without proving that Introvigne is the only scholar quoted while two thirds of quotes are from other sources. Interestingly the three guys who voted for the deletion have made no significant edits while those who voted against have all edited in the field of religion - and not in my specialized one Aidayoung August 31,2018 2;32 pm EST — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aidayoung (talk • contribs) 18:32, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Keep. In my opinion, valuable time was wasted in attacking the quality of the sources, while not only are they of excellent quality but they prove what those specialized in the field (and with some editings done, which does not seem to be the case for those asking for deletion...) know, i.e. that Oleg V. Maltsev leads a well-known and controversial (hence widely discussed) “new religious movement” of sort. Looking at the sources, I notice that
1. The reference list consists of 19 different items.
2. Two of the 19 items are two articles by Professor Introvigne and he is quoted (sometimes not alone) in 12 notes out of 38. This is not surprising, as he is “the” specialist of Eastern European new religious movements. His two articles have been published in peer-reviewed sources. The board overseeing “The Journal of CESNUR” reads like a Who’s Who of the most famous academics in the field and the fact that Introvigne himself is one of the editors is not a valid objection, as in peer-reviewed journals the articles by the editors go through the same review as everybody else’s. The peer review process is very strict: see . The other article has been published in the online encyclopedia “World Religions and Spirituality Project,” edited by Professor David G. Bromley at Virginia Commonwealth University whose rules are equally strict, see and which is widely regarded as the most authoritative publication in this field. Even if the articles by Introvigne would have been biased in favor of Maltsev, the bias would have been noticed and corrected in the peer review, unless one suspects a conspiracy involving a huge number of sociologists and universities all over the world.
3. The references include two articles by Willy Fautré, a Belgian specialist of new religious movements and the president of Human Rights Without Frontiers. Note that Fautré’s first article about Maltsev was written well before the texts by Introvigne. Four quotes are by Fautré.
4. There are scholarly articles by Professor PierLuigi Zoccatelli of Pontifical Salesian University, who has not an English Wikipedia page but has one in Italian and one in French and one by psychologist Raffaella Di Marzio, who has also a Wikipedia page in Italian . There are eight quotes by Zoccatelli and Di Marzio. That these articles have been published in a journal having Introvigne as one of the editors would not be an objection (and there are not so many specialized journals in this domain at any rate). These are well-known scholars with their own reputation to defend, not to mention that their articles went through the peer review process too.
5. One quote is to a review of articles about Maltsev in the Web site of the European Society for the Study of Western Esotericism, the leading scholarly society in the field of esotericism in Europe. The review discusses the relationship between Maltsev and esotericism, obviously a matter regarded as relevant by the Society.
6. Interestingly, the author quoted Introvigne for factual elements (where Maltsev was born and educated, summary of some of his books), while Zoccatelli, Di Marzio, Fautré and the European Society were quoted for judgments and evaluations. The quotes by Introvigne do not have a valutative content, hence his alleged bias would have been neutralized at any rate.
7. The person who wrote the entry seems to be a scholar, but she did her homework in checking non-specialized media too. I would have liked more information about Maltsev’s martial arts techniques, perhaps quoting more from the National Geographic article but it looks like this is not the specialized field of the author of the entry. At any rate, five references are from magazines or newspapers. They also confirm that Maltsev is notable enough, and they are in a variety of different languages.
That the entry should be kept for me is self-evident.--Le luxembourgeois (talk) 14:19, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Keep. There are numerous serious and respected academic sources. Those calling for deletion do not seem to have valid arguments except that they do not like one particular (internationally famous) scholar who is at any rate one among several sources quoted. Maltsev is well known also for his idiosyncratic and controversial ideas about God and esotericism, recently discussed inter alia by the European Society for the Study of Western Esotericism which is quoted in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma1990227 (talk • contribs) 00:39, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- These sources are not about Oleg Maltsev. Willy Fautre spoke about attacks on his company but not about Oleg Maltsev himself. The article in National Geographic is about fencing, again not about Oleg Maltsev, etc. Only Massimo Introvigne wrote about Oleg Maltsev.--Russians Don`t give up (talk) 22:59, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
  - With all due respect, the argument seems increasingly preposterous. The Applied Sciences Association is the brainchild of Oleg Maltsev and it is impossible to discuss the Association without discussing Maltsev. His name recurs continuously in Fautré’s articles (in the article Fautré wrote in 2016 the name “Oleg Maltsev” recurs 17 times; in the second article by Fautré, it recurs 14 times), as well as in Di Marzio’s and Zoccatelli’s. Di Marzio’s article is about a movie directed by Oleg Maltsev and its title is “Oleg Maltsev and the Mythical History of Salvatore Giuliano.” Zoccatelli’s article is called “Mysticism, the Esoteric Paradigm and Oleg Maltsev.” The article in National Geographic is about Maltsev’s theories about fencing. I am not an expert of boxing but am adding a reference to Oleg Maltsev’ theories on boxing from a specialized Web site, just for the fun of it. Aidayoung (talk) 23:35, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Comment: This discussion has been running for 13 days+ now without being transcluded. I have added a {{subst:afd2}} and will delsort and transclude in today's list in a moment.
I have added multiple {{undated}}, I have bulleted most of the above posts to get some clarity, and I have bolded a few !votes. Some participants may find it worthwhile to read WP:DISCUSSAFD and append per WP:REDACT. Sam Sailor 03:01, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks. I am indeed new to deletion discussions, although I have edited/created a number of articles. Thanks to User: Sam Sailor for the useful tips. Aidayoung (talk) 06:35, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Weak delete. Cons: 1) A scholar with no citations AFAIK (according to Google Scholar); not to be confused with the biochemist Oleg Maltsev 2) not seeing any references to his work in Google Books, neither. Effectively, he is not cited in English scholars (which does not mean he is not notable, he just have no real international impact). Can't verify regional impact, since he presumably publishes in Ukrainian and I can't search in that language. 3) He doesn't seem to be affiliated with any scientific institution, at least I can't see any note/CV of him being a professor or such. My reading of his webpage suggests he is working independently, which is not a good indicator (most proper scholars work at a scientific institution). 4) The clear sockpuppet activity here is suggestive of someone with an agenda, and smells of WP:VANITY, suggesting the Wikipedia bios might be written following a direct request from the subject (but weirdly, this has been nominated by a new user too... some off wiki conflict spilling here?). I will also note that creator of this article, User:Aidayoung, also created Massimo Introvigne few years back... coincidence? Or professional association? Shrug. Pros: 1) he studies Struggacky's? That's cool . But doesn't mean anything for Wikipedia's policies... just saying I appreciate it 2) two (, ) in-depth articles about him published in The Journal of CESNUR. CESNUR seems like a notable / reasonably reliable publisher, through it's journal is open source and doesn't seem to be indexed in any major international indices (I can't find it listed in SCImago Journal Rank (), Social Sciences Citation Index , nor SCOPUS (). I don't think they are a predatory journal (I can't find any proof for that), but at the very least they are a far cry from significant journal. Which calls into question how seriously they tackle the peer reviews. This is a tough call; barring other sources, all we have are two articles in a very minor journal. The subject is clearly interested in self-promotion (just look at his nice website; not that there is anything wrong with either), but given stuff like it's clear he has some connections to Italy. Did the two scholars wrote articles about him because they think he is notable - or because they are doing him a favor? Hmmm. The creation of the Wikipedia article is also highly problematic. Given the super low impact of the journal, it's very hard for me to imagine how would anyone stumble upon them (but, AGF, it's not impossible). Still, I just have trouble seeing him as a s real scholar due to his zero presence on Google Scholar; something seems very fishy here - or perhaps I am not using the right searchers to find him on Google. So, either we are dealing with a major WP:SYSTEMICBIAS issue (as in, scholar whose majority of works are in other, non-Latin language) or this is a vanity spam bio. Since no other sources were presented, I am leaning towards the pessimistic ('this is a vanity promotional piece') scenario. Ping User:DGG, User:Randykitty - this is an interesting bio/AfD to review. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:31, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks to the last user for his very interesting comments. There is however a misunderstanding. I know next to nothing about scientists and have never written or edited articles about scientists in a long activity in Wikipedia. My main interest in Maltsev is because he operates an idiosyncratic new religious/esoteric movement that is well-known as such in several countries and is widely accused of being a cult. I have devoted more space to his ideas about God than to any “scientific” activity. In the process of researching him (and thanks also to this discussion on deletion) I have also found many references to Maltsev on specialized sites and sources about boxing and fencing, but this is not my pot of tea. I maintain that the scholars I have quoted are all widely published and with international reputation, and that their articles prove that he is discussed in different countries for his religious ideas. The bibliography of Maltsev published at shows that indeed most of Maltsev’s works are published in Russian, not in English. But at any rate most are about religion/esoterica or fencing/boxing and these articles do not end up in scientific indexes. Aidayoung (talk) 10:55, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Keep Even if one of the sources is affiliated, there's enough diversity of sources on the article to demonstrate WP:GNG notability. Simonm223 (talk) 11:47, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep Keep Maltsev’s page, he is obviously notable and the article is well sourced.Nonchalant77 (talk) 20:17, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Keep and rewrite. somewhat notable, although considerably promotional. I tend to interpret notability for non-standard religious movements and their associated people very broadly, in order to avoid unconscious prejudice. The objectivity of CESNUR has been challenged in multiple directions, but it is not affiliated with this movement. There's no point going by citations--the places he publishes are not in the mainstream accessible to us, and the Cesnur articles are too new for citations. This is not going to be easy to rewrite--it poses the frequent dilemma in this field of not being important enough for an extensive article, but needing considerable space to explain his unique combination of beliefs. His views are difficult to objectively categorize, but I would personally consider his writings as pseudo-history. There is no point judging pseudo-academic work by academic standards. DGG ( talk ) 21:17, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks to this user too. I have started improving the article by expanding the references in the section I am less familiar with, boxing and fencing, but such constructive contributions and suggestions are always welcome. I agree wholeheartedly with DGG that Maltsev would be probably not notable as a “scientist” (although he claims to be one and has a PhD in psychology). But he is notable in two fields. One is my own field (and, I understand, judging from their contributions, the field of some who expressed themselves against deletion), new religious and esoteric movements, or if you prefer “notorious cults,” although this is not the politically correct term, or at any rate characters that attract widespread attention for their “unique combinations of belief.” The other, which is not my field, is boxing and weapon handling techniques, where Maltsev seems also to have attracted considerable international attention. The scholars I quoted may be criticized for one or another reason, but one positive contribution they offered is that they tried to explain how the heck Maltsev’s beliefs about God/esotericism and boxing/criminal groups/weapon handling are related Aidayoung (talk) 21:33, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Keep. As others in this discussion, my experience has been only in editing about religion and I read the article because I am interested in Maltsev's highly controversial religious ideas (with which, as a Christian, I disagree). I do not have enough knowledge to comment whether the subject is notable in boxing or weapons, although a quick search suggests a WP:NEXIST situation in the field of boxing, and other editors may be able to add additional sources. I agree that Maltsev is not notable in the field of science, but that is not what the article is about. In the field of religion, I like the comment by DGG that the structure of Maltsev's theology is grounded in "pseudo-history" and was even tempted to add the expression "pseudo-history" to the article myself, although this may be a value judgement and I wonder whether it would not violate the WP:IMPARTIAL rule, unless this qualification has been used by some scholars somewhere. At any rate, some more critical comments about Maltsev's theories of history should be sourced and quoted and would improve the article. But pseudo-theologies grounded in faulty historical theories, when they become popular enough and attract followers, seem to be generally compatible with the WP:GNG notability rule. Ultimately, I believe the article should be kept because among those studying or otherwise interested in the so called cults, or religious unhortodox movements, Maltsev is well-known enough. I do not find evidence that the main sources are affiliated or promotional. Criticism focused on Italian scholars but Fautré, for example, is not Italian, is himself well-known in the field, and started writing about Maltsev years before the Italian scholars published their articles. 萧剑 (talk) 23:33, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) KCVelaga (talk) 00:19, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Devon Cajuste

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Since he has appeared in no regular or post-season games in the NFL, he has not met the notability standards for American football players established in WP:NGRIDIRON. All sources provided are trivial mentions of transactions and do not otherwise establish notability. PAVA 11 02:53, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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~~Delete~~ per nom. Non-notable until he plays an NFL game. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 03:20, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Changed to keep per page views and sources below. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:54, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep Getting coverage mostly due to Hard Knocks, but still had enough from earlier to pass WP:GNG .--Yankees10 03:39, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep Meets GNG per above sources. ~EDDY ~ 19:11, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Delete fails WP:NGRIDIRON for never playing professional football and WP:NCOLLATH for failing to receive national coverage (only coverage was local to his college or hometown). SportingFlyer talk 00:20, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. Yunshui _水 09:40, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Prophecies of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

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Per WP:DEL6, WP:DEL7, and WP:DEL8 as essentially all sources citing the propecies are non-scholarly pro-Ahmadiyya sites and therefore, unreliable. – Batreeq 02:35, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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Selective Merge to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. Serious POV concerns with the current article, in addition to the nom's concerns. power~enwiki (π, ν) 16:03, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Delete - If someone really wants to work on an article then they should instead start from scratch than using this POV cruft. Rzvas (talk) 18:48, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete - "said to have" been synthesis and trivia. As Rzvas predicted, start from scratch. Bearian (talk) 00:03, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was keep. Yunshui _水 09:40, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Francis Adefarakanmi Agbede

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Minor African monarch (chieftain) elected in 2017. May or may not be notable. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 20:46, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Comment normally a nomination for deletion must give a valid reason for deletion. As the person who moved this article to mainspace your nomination seems odd. I tagged the article during new pages review as "possibly" being non notable. The idea was to allow other users the opportunity to add sources. There is a plausible claim to notability but the sources are weak mostly puff pieces hence my tag. The deletion discussion mentioned on the talk page concerned the draft as to whether it should be deleted from draft space which is something that very rarely happens as it is an incubator. Provoking a deletion discussion because you don't agree with a maintenance tag rather than addressing the problem and improving the sourcing could be seen as disruptive. Dom from Paris (talk) 21:48, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

@Domdeparis: I don't know a lot about AfD, if this is not the right venue to debate whether the article is notable then please move the discussion to the correct place. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 22:23, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

@Frayae: Hi the first thing to do is discuss on the article's talk page the problems that another editor has raised with maintenance tags unless they are quite obviously wrong. I replaced it with an edit summary explaining why I felt there was a potential notability problem. What you can do is WP:WITHDRAW the nomination and we can discuss on the talk page if you like. Dom from Paris (talk) 06:36, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't see how cancelling the AfD will help if there is a notability problem. Also if I cancel the AfD it implies I think the article should be kept, which I don't. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 14:27, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

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Delete Vanity page, not notable, possibly a fabrication. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 18:43, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Keep seems legitimate and there's sufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG. power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:28, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Keep. Multiple sources are listed in the article. They're a bit fawning, but, well, he's a monarch. --GRuban (talk) 15:48, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 02:05, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Keep Though the article needs thorough copyediting, this is clearly notable monarch. Well covered in Nigeria's topmost reliable sources , , . –Ammarpad (talk) 07:50, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. Yunshui _水 09:40, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Phronemophobia

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No proper medical sources can be found for this term, only fun-with-Greek web lists and dubious health sites. ... discospinster _talk 01:16, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Delete fails WP:RS and Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary Shushugah (talk) 02:07, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete. I had moved a previous identical version of this page to the draftspace because of the poor sourcing, but the editor recreated it anyway. Fram (talk) 04:21, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete and salt as per Fram's account. Not properly verifiable. Robert McClenon (talk) 12:06, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete and salt. The present sources do not help the article pass WP:Notability. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:28, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete - sources aren't useful in verifying this medical term. Adamtt9 (talk) 14:20, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Merge I feel that it can be merged and redirected to List of phobias per the coverage it has in the books and media.

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Colman, Andrew M. (26 February 2009). "A Dictionary of Psychology". OUP Oxford – via Google Books.
Corsini, Ray (5 December 2016). "The Dictionary of Psychology". Routledge – via Google Books.
Burns, Elizabeth; Korn, Kenneth; IV, James Whyte (3 June 2011). "Oxford American Handbook of Clinical Examination and Practical Skills". Oxford University Press – via Google Books.
Austen, Catherine (1 October 2009). "Walking Backward". Orca Book Publishers – via Google Books.
Giles, Doug (5 June 2007). "10 Habits of Decidedly Defective People: The Successful Loser's Guide to Life". Revell – via Google Books.

requesting a relist since the suggestion to merge came in at the last day of AfD. --DBig Xrayᗙ 20:59, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Delete - another "said to have" essay. Bearian (talk) 00:05, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

The result was delete. Yunshui _水 09:39, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Powerline.io

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Does not satisfy software notability or game notability. The references are not independent. The page says nothing about what others have written, and so does not establish independent notability. The discussion of the developer is purely promotional. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:34, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Delete fails WP:RS, and WP:GNG. The WP:PROMO is an issue that is often fixable, but it is the meat of this article in its current state. Shushugah (talk) 02:01, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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A paragraph or two in one work does not notability make. Delete. --Izno (talk) 12:20, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
On an aside, this sounds like "Worm Wars", which was a map set for Warcraft III. I've been wondering if such games exist. --Izno (talk) 12:22, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete Lacks WP:Notability and fails to pass WP:RS. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:31, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Delete couple of passing mentions exists but that's it. Capitals00 (talk) 11:26, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Knowledge

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Shape Security

Unavowed

List of OECD countries by job security

Peter Emslie

Edward Weng

CS Games

Juliet Tablak

Competitions and prizes in artificial intelligence

Agami Hando

Mark Rhea

Ozark (TV series) Opening Credit Symbols

Island Groceries

Fatih Başkaya

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User:Dev Foundation

Zobo Funn Band

1776 (company)

Magnificent Seven (business schools)

Madness: Their Nightmare, My Reality

Yakult

Oleg Viktorovich Maltsev

Devon Cajuste

Prophecies of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

Francis Adefarakanmi Agbede

Phronemophobia

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