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The result was delete. bibliomaniac15 06:38, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable dart player who has not won, or been in the finals of a major tournament. John B123 (talk) 23:56, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Ritchie333 13:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable dart player who has not won, or been in the finals of a major tournament. John B123 (talk) 23:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete. No WP:SIGCOV found (only results and profile pages, which all players have, and one small very local article ), and lack of significant achievements does not inspire confidence that any can be found. wjemather 11:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Ritchie333 13:08, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable dart player who has not won, or been in the finals of a major tournament. John B123 (talk) 23:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Ritchie333 13:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable dart player who has not won, or been in the finals of a major tournament. John B123 (talk) 23:53, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Ritchie333 13:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable dart player who has not won, or been in the finals of a major tournament. John B123 (talk) 23:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Ritchie333 13:09, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable dart player who has not won, or been in the finals of a major tournament. John B123 (talk) 23:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was Speedy deleted and salted. No need to AfD this article, with its (unspaced) misspelled title, anyway. Please report any further incarnations for similar treatment. El_C 01:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

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This article has been deleted several times this week under all sorts of different names. It has also been sent to draft a couple of times but tendentiously moved back so I don't believe that continual draftifying is an appropriate solution. My searches are not finding anything to suggest that Carbone was notable enough for an article; he seems to fail WP:GNG. This is his obituary which is the only thing that comes close to being a source. As he very recently passed away, I suspect these attempts are the efforts of a relative to create an article as a memorial, unfortunately WP:NOTMEMORIAL applies. Spiderone 23:31, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Work 14:12, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Appears to a non notable fringe theory. See Knowledge:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Concerns_about_editing_of_Milankovitch_cycles_related_articles for previous discussion of the issue. The author of the article Jean-Louis Pinault has the same name as the author of several papers cited in the article, which appear to account for the main bulk of the text. These papers are published in the Journal of Marine Science and Engineering, a MDPI journal. MDPI publications are considered to have low peer review standards. I can find no independent coverage of this theory other than this 2014 blog post by climate change denialist Denis Rancourt. The blog post states that Pinault had been met with sufficiently significant resistance from the dominant scientific cabal, know as "peer review" Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete Even setting aside any questions about MDPI's standards, the references are either to background material (rather than the topic of the article) or to primary sources that have had no discernible influence in the wider scientific community. For example, reference #3 has been "cited" 13 times, but only in documents by the author himself on his own website. Likewise, reference #6, the most-used in the piece, has 20 "citations", 19 of which are by the author himself, and 13 of those are on his own website again, while the one exception is in another MDPI journal and barely mentions that the paper exists, saying nothing whatsoever in detail about it. Reference #8 again has 20 "citations", 19 of which are by the author himself with 12 on his own website, and the one exception is a non-peer-reviewed document that only brushes past Pinault's paper and doesn't discuss the paper's conclusion, only taking a few numbers that Pinault (2018) took from NOAA. There's just nothing to work with here. XOR'easter (talk) 01:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for this thorough analysis, I concur that the references are either to background material (rather than the topic of the article) or to primary sources that have had no discernible influence in the wider scientific community Pinault himself even admits that his ideas are largely ignored here stating that: it is a theory unknown to a large part of the scientific community. Hemiauchenia (talk) 01:10, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete - Leaving potentially fringe considerations aside, the first problem I see is that the article uses Knowledge like a journal, using primary sources and synthesis, rather than summarizing secondary sources that are immediately about the topic and its conclusions (WP:PRIMARY, WP:SYNTH, WP:NOTJOURNAL). The second is that such secondary sources appear to be lacking, meaning that it's too soon for Knowledge and indicating that the theory is non-notable (WP:GNG). —PaleoNeonate08:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete - This is climate change denial. The author is saying that the Earth is warming due to changes in its orbit and solar activity. It's not. Tercer (talk) 14:35, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete No sources to indicate the wide acceptance of this theory or its impact on climate science. Dimadick (talk) 12:31, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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I could not find any in-depth coverage of this player that would allow us to expand this biography beyond its current form. He does not appear to pass WP:GNG. In addition, his achievements in darts do not put him along the elite players that would warrant an article based on importance. He has only once been involved at any stage of a Major and, on that one occasion, was eliminated in the preliminaries. Spiderone 23:08, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Short pieces in the local paper like this one do not amount to passing WP:GNG. According to Mastercaller, he has not even competed in the preliminary rounds of a major tournament, let alone the main draw. Far from being an elite darts player. Spiderone 22:59, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:25, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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I can't find anything that even comes close to passing WP:GNG. He owns his own darts company but he doesn't derive any notability from that. His career is not that significant that we need to have an article on him. He has played in the preliminary round of a major once but never got beyond that. Spiderone 22:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) gobonobo 09:53, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Fails in meeting WP:NAUTHOR Tbyros (talk) 16:47, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

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Comment 2601:588:C100:6260:15B2:AB12:25D4:2D17 - this is a pretty big allegation to be making against another editor. Do you have any proof of this? ser! (let's discuss it). 01:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Ritchie333 13:09, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable release per WP:NALBUMS and WP:GNG. Coverage goes seldom beyond the release's existence and is almost entirely self-published tweets from the artists ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 22:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:27, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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This player doesn't seem notable to me. Contested PROD by article creator with comment Has played in a major, he's notable enough.

The best two sources that I could find were name checks here and here. In terms of darts achievements, he has never won a title, never achieved a nine darter and only played in a preliminary round of a major. Most importantly, he doesn't seem to pass WP:GNG. Spiderone 22:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was keep. Spartaz 18:55, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

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No evidence that there's anything notable about this organization. They distribute movies--great. But there is no secondary coverage that actually discusses anything about them, just mentions that they exist (and I just removed a press release saying how good they were in Knowledge's voice). Drmies (talk) 21:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Keep as notable since they have been covered directly in industry periodicals. It looks like this article got fluffed up in the past week and can be reverted to before that as a baseline. Some articles where the company is headlined are:
I'm not as familiar with anime-related sources, so not sure which ones can be considered reliable. I get that the recent puffed-up nature makes the topic look improperly promotional, but I think there could still be an encyclopedic version with a few solid, neutral paragraphs and a list of distributed works. Erik (talk | contrib) 22:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Eleven Arts (the page I added to) is a production and distribution company with prominent anime and live-action titles. There are a number of similar pages for similar companies. Aniplex of America, Funimation, gkids are all notable, respectable, and detailed examples of existing distribution pages for anime films that have similar content to the edits that were made in the past week. Users who access Knowledge in order to use it as an open resource for all information and knowledge for U.S. anime distribution would not be able to have their educational needs fulfilled, and deleting this page would not serve the purpose that Knowledge was intended for. It is confusing as a public user when a dispute is being made with no preface to what a "notable" distribution company would entail. There are several dozen sources cited within these recent edits that show every statement has a press release to verify that it is a major contributor to film distribution and production.
It has been mentioned in every post on this topic that no mod with professional knowledge of the validity of "anime news sources" has weighed in. In order to have an unbiased and informed discussion on the validity of this page's recent contributions, a moderator with a surface level of knowledge of anime news sources weighing in would be needed.
The recent changes to the page, and the current existing changes that are still public, are all lists of films that are associated with Eleven Arts. A list of films and which year they were released theatrically (or re-released in a different country) is public information and valuable information for people pursuing knowledge about film. This information not only has various citations in each section from a variety of news sources (not just "anime news sources" but reputable film websites.) However, all of this information about production and distribution is also displayed on end credits for these film titles. I believe that films at festivals like Sundance should be accessible as public knowledge.
In terms of the recent additions to the Knowledge page, the previous Knowledge page was not at all fact-checked, correctly written, informative, or detailed. There was only one short description line that was copied directly from a 2017 press release. (That, in my opinion, felt like more of an opinion than a non-biased statement.) My additions were to add details that were cited by multiple sources and give a better description overall.
I understand and respect any interpretation of my writing that would lead mods to decide to omit phrases, sentences, or details. I am completely open to any changes with my entry. However, the decision to delete or prevent my changes completely to a previous (poorly fact checked and biased) version of the pages doesn't seem to make much sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.123.60.146 (talk) 20:20, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Please see Knowledge:Conflict of interest and and WP:PROMO, especially the part that says, "Knowledge articles about a person, company or organization are not an extension of their website, press releases, or other social media marketing efforts." Furthermore, the previous version is closer to the ideal version because there is not a lot written about the organization in the first place, though a list of films distributed would work. WP:REFSPAM is also a concern with this draft. Erik (talk | contrib) 20:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: Please note that if the article is kept, I will restore it to the more straightforward version here and incorporate the above-mentioned sources and a limited list of distributed films. I find that coverage does exist, but definitely not 8+ kBs' worth and not 30+ references' worth. Erik (talk | contrib) 15:52, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
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  • What does "why they're notable" even mean? WP:N says topics should be "worthy of notice". The above sources notice the company conducting business and write about it. You're going beyond the guidelines, it seems. Erik (talk | contrib) 21:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
*We need to see how they satisfy the notability guidelines. Simply having an article about what they do isn't enough. We need to see discussions in reliable, third-party sources such as peer-reviewed journals, newspapers of record, prominent industry journals or the likes of a Time magazine talking about how the business had made an impact or detailing the history of the company, interviews with individuals connected with the business in such sources... This is basically what you would write on the back of a napkin to briefly explain it to someone. Notability implies they are more than a run-of-the-mill business, the article doesn't provide this. I'm not sure there are sources that can provide these facts; if there are, please provide them. Oaktree b (talk) 02:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • That is too overly specific. We want significant coverage from reliable sources that are independent of the topic. You can personally insist that the coverage needs so-and-so details, but the guidelines do not require that a business be extraordinary to warrant its own article. It needs to be worthy of notice, and the above links indicate that noteworthiness with not just one-sentence mentions or partial discussion, but especially direct and headlined. Erik (talk | contrib) 17:50, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
@Oaktree b, you seem to be judging notability on the basis of the current version of the article, which is not how notability works. Did you look at the five sources that Erik posted above, or search for any sources yourself? WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • I'm hard-pressed to believe that Variety, The Hollywood Reporter, and ScreenDaily do not qualify as high-quality reliable sources with a reputation for fact-checking. Their articles cover a wide swathe of film-related activities that encompasses reviews, production updates, wider critical and audience reception, controversies where they appear, and what film-related organizations are doing. With their history and their breadth even within the scope of film, it is dubious to claim that that these sources are not independent of the content. And here, these sources are literally headlining the organization, so claiming lack of significant coverage is incorrect. I understand and support the need for caution to ensure that Knowledge is not a means of promotion, and we should ensure that articles about organizations are "written in an objective and unbiased style". Knowledge also combines features of general and specialized encyclopedias, and topics will be more covered by topically-related reliable sources than general ones. Erik (talk | contrib) 16:18, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep per Erik. I chuckled at that relist notice, but ultimately it looks quite overwhelmingly like notability is indicated here. I have some passing familiarity (although nothing resembling expertise or even, honestly, much interest) with anime and found heavy/extensive coverage on Anime News Network, which is a reliable subculture source, in addition to the reliable overculture sources given. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 03:09, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep. They have been involved with licensing and releasing many notable films, like the Sound! Euphonium and Laughing Under the Clouds movies, as well as A Silent Voice (film). They also have significant coverage from ANN. Link20XX (talk) 18:45, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep. I concur with the assessment made by other users on here. The article should be improved, but it should also be kept at the same time. Historyday01 (talk) 19:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: I've overhauled the article using the film-related reliable sources that write about the company. I redid the filmography tables and dumped a lot of the promotional language and press releases used. See before and after. Please review to ensure that it meets WP:PROMO. There may be coverage in Japanese-language news sources too, though I wouldn't be able to look for that. Erik (talk | contrib) 21:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Much better, this is what we were looking for in the first place. I'm neither for nor against at this point. Oaktree b (talk) 21:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep: The article needs improvement as a whole, but I don't think its notability is questionable. Sarcataclysmal (talk) 22:09, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Forget about PROMO, the crucial piece that's missing are references. The criteria for establishing notability for companies/organizations as per WP:NCORP is for multiple sources (at least two) of significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. None of the references in the article meet the criteria. Coverage of the movies does not confer notability on this company. HighKing 21:09, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
    As stated above. Variety, The Hollywood Reporter, and Screen Daily are reliable sources that are independent of the topic. It is absurd to claim that these periodicals should be disqualified because they cover film, which a film company is inevitably involved with. It implies that no subject-specific publication should be allowed to be a reliable source for being topically related to the entity at hand. Contrast that with something like Kodak being actually affiliated with the cinematography products used in The 40-Year-Old Version here, which should not count toward notability. That's a key difference. Are you saying that Variety and The Hollywood Reporter have an affiliation with the topic because they cover film, or because they benefit fiscally from reporting on this entity? Erik (talk | contrib) 21:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
    I'm assuming the sources are "reliable" but you seem to be ignoring the fact that a source needs to be more than simply "reliable". You are also mis-interpreting what is required by "independent" and "significant". Since this is a company/organization, we therefore we need to analyse the sources using WP:NCORP which has two particular sections - WP:CORPDEPTH (which defines significant coverage) and WP:ORGIND (which defined "Independent Content". You mentioned three sources, lets look at the first mentioned in the article from each one:
  • This Variety reference is about the Pusan International Film Festival Asian Film Market but the contents relative to this company are based entirely on an interview with its CEO Junichi Suzuki. That fails WP:ORGIND.
  • This Hollywood Reporter reference is based on an announcement that the company picked up the rights to a movie and then goes on to discuss the movie. There is no in-depth information on the company whatsoever which fails WP:CORPDEPTH. Also, this also looks very much like is was based on a company announcement and if that was the case the reference would also fail WP:ORGIND as not containing any "Independent Content".
  • The Screen Daily suffers the exact same problems. It says nothing about the company (other than they've "picked up" international rights to a movie and "taken over sales") and fails WP:CORPDEPTH. All of the detail is about the movie or details around the movie, nothing about the company.
CORPDEPTH states that what is required is "deep or significant" coverage which mean we require an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis on the company. This "deep coverage" also cannot be "echo chamber" coverage - we need more than regurgitation of information provided by the company. You're trying to excuse the lack of coverage and saying that coverage of the movies can be used to establish the notability of the company. No. Notability is not inherited. If this company was notable, somebody would have written something "in depth" about the actual company using "Independent Content". If you think a reference is out there, link it below and we can check for yourselves. Nothing I've seen and nothing I can find meets the mark so far. HighKing 21:46, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. The only !vote was expressed weakly and no interest expressed for deletion. (non-admin closure) Bungle 09:36, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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notability Robingunes (talk) 09:23, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • Comment I found a few sources of Hürriyet: , , , though I’m having trouble to understand what this is. Is it a stage name for VEYasin or is it an album? Because one of the sources calls him "DJ Hey Douglas" while this article says its a project. We need to look into WP:ENT or WP:NALBUM depending on what it is. Also a note for the nominator: nominations on the English Knowledge tend to have more than one word in it. ~Styyx 11:58, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
One more additional source in the ongoing AfD on the Turkish Knowledge. ~Styyx 18:21, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
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I put it up - interesting music but hard to pin down since it is a 'dj project' of an individual. But anybody approaching 8m views of a track on Youtube is obviously a substantial artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Batterbu (talkcontribs) 23:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

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The result was speedy delete. IAR. This is not and never will be an article. We do not need seven days of bureaucracy. StarM 22:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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WP:NOTGAMEGUIDE applies here. I could not find any independent sources covering this topic to establish notability. Spiderone 20:49, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 10:50, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non notable actor who doesn’t satisfy WP:NACTOR as she hasn’t won any prestigious awards neither has she taken up significant roles in the movies she has featured in, generally, a before search shows she lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of her, thus this is also a GNG fail Celestina007 (talk) 20:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Comment — @CommanderWaterford, please see WP:SIGN & do so each time you make a comment for the sake of clarity(please do so immediately) Furthermore, I’m afraid your knowledge of policy pertaining to notability might be inadequate & I do not believe you possess sufficient knowledge on WP:GNG. The number of sources google news popped up isn’t relevant but what matters is the quality of those sources. Mere mentions do not satisfy WP:SIGCOV thus such sources are of zero relevance to WP:GNG which requires in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them. Furthermore per WP:NACTOR she doesn’t meet the threshold as no criterion is satisfied as she is yet to be featured in lead roles neither has she won prestigious awards for actors. Celestina007 (talk) 23:35, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Work 14:30, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable player, has not won any major titles or been in the finals of a major tournament. ... discospinster talk 20:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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Delete; it doesn't meet WP:SPORTSPERSON.MEisSCAMMERHello! 22:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 10:50, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable player, has not won any major titles or been in the finals of a major tournament. ... discospinster talk 20:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was speedy keep per WP:SNOW as there has been enough discussion to establish that nobody agrees with the nomination. (non-admin closure) Andrew🐉(talk) 19:57, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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Fails WP:GNG woefully Jenyire2 20:37, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Speedy keep, per the comments of User:Usernameunique above, and a WP:TROUT to the nominator for a woefully misguided nomination. Not only is the company very much in the news now, but even a cursory GoogleNews search shows plenty of earlier coverage, much of it in depth (e.g. , , , , , , , ). Certainly passes WP:GNG by a long Texas mile. Nsk92 (talk) 16:48, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. Looks like consensus to me, but just in case: This article/company is not only notable--meets WP:GNG--but also a part of a significant event and will make any question of failing WP:NCORP moot. Any motion to delete is misguided. Improving this article and illuminating its significance/role in the Feb 2021 Texas storm and ensuing crisis serves Knowledge's Mission as a service to inform, empower and engage. Knowledge can be, should be, must be, helpful and accretive to the current emergency and to the longer term analysis, discussion, and policies to protect citizens, property, and general welfare.

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Leave it up. This company has been a over US news lately. The person who flagged it needs to not be so narrow minded — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nsdtk (talkcontribs) 05:22, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. TheSandDoctor 18:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Work 14:31, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. TheSandDoctor 18:18, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 10:51, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. TheSandDoctor 18:19, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Ritchie333 13:08, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) EN-Jungwon 14:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Fails WP:NASTRO. Mentioned in the discovery paper of its exoplanet and just about nowhere else. Some secondary coverage of the exoplanet discovery from a few years ago, nothing since. Faint, nothing particularly unusual about the star or its planet. Lithopsian (talk) 19:49, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was merge to Shades of Blue (TV series)#Cast and characters. Daniel (talk) 10:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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I don't feel this article passes muster for WP:GNG. It's a very brief page, with only two sources of baseline character observation. Generally, it's not too common that a character is notable enough to merit an individual wikipedia page. Walter White, Buffy Summers, Tony Soprano, these characters had significant coverage to warrant their own pages. This does not. Rusted AutoParts 19:23, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Work 14:37, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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One of several unsourced or poorly sourced inorganic compound stubs recently created by Keresluna (talk · contribs). Deprodded without explanation by Andrew Davidson (talk · contribs). The original rationale, by Graeme Bartlett (talk · contribs), read:

This compound does not appear to exist. Chemical book and pubchem do not prove that it can be made. The only reliable reference I can find is from 1929, where it could not be made.

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Comment Quick search in Google Books gave me several good hits, e.g. here https://books.google.es/books?id=yZ786vEild0C&pg=PA79&dq=%22Beryllium+chlorate%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMouPJmvTuAhWRUcAKHZ8qD2QQ6AEwBHoECAkQAg#v=onepage&q=%22Beryllium%20chlorate%22%20-wikipedia&f=false CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep The nomination attacks myself and the good-faith creator but fails to provide a reason to delete. The prod was feeble too – the difficulty of making the compound is not a reason to delete – see unobtainium. Apart from what's in the article, the source cited by CommanderWaterford – Encyclopedia of the Alkaline Earth Compounds – is the clincher. This is easy to find – I did so when deprodding. The failure of the nominators to mention this demonstrates that WP:BEFORE was not followed. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:20, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete The before was definitely done as there was a discussion here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemicals#Beryllium chlorate. There is a section in Encyclopedia of the Alkaline Earth Compounds, but that section also calls it chlorite, and has a formula for perchlorate, and suggests it is a hydroxy compound. The melting and boiling point look extremely dubious, as the compound would be expected to decompose with high heat. It also claims that actinium is a halide. There are no references anywhere near this section in the book. So I am strongly suspecting the book is wrong and an unreliable source. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:16, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
    • I will also retract my claim above that 10.1135/cccc19290377 is about this substance. After checking more carefully it is actually about Beryllium chloride, for some reason here called "Beryllium chlorat". So it means no reliable references found by me. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete While we can have articles about substances that haven't been synthesized, we need to have something to say about them — significant coverage, even if only speculative. For example, unbiunium is conjectured to lie within the island of stability, and there's plenty to say about it despite the fact that no laboratory has managed to produce it. That doesn't appear to be the case here. XOR'easter (talk) 01:41, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete I think that raising the quality of WP has to mean increasing the proportion of good articles, which necessarily involves deleting bad articles. And I think that experts (pace the idiot Gove) are the people to determine whether an article is good or not. Unfortunately my grasp of chemistry is very weak, so I can't really tell what would be wrong with reacting beryllium with hydrochloric acid to make beryllium chlorate. So actually I would be very happy to have my opinion entirely disregarded, on condition, of course, that opinions from other contributors who surely know even less about chemistry than I do are also disregarded. I refer, of course, to members of the "rescue brigade" or however it is that they style themselves, whose grasp of just about anything appears to be limited to string matching. ¶ Meanwhile, it looks like we may have another Cardarelli on our hands. R C Ropp was born in 1927 (according to his own, actually quite interesting memoir) and thus created the 1200-page "Encyclopedia" referenced above at the age of 85, some feat only a few years after completing the 630-page "Handbook of Glass Fractography" (from the publisher's blurb: "Every soul is a labyrinth and a riddle. A soul is a collection of fragments, moments and memories glittering like jewels upon a web. Every piece has connections to all the others.") The latter does seem to be more about glass than souls, but has its own fascinations. The author, born in Detroit, Michigan, naturally writes in American English, and his trademark typographical curiosity "i.e.-" is apparent throughout, but around page 6 he switches to British spelling for a change of air, I suppose. Some sections of the book use Fahrenheit temperatures, other sections Celsius, while Microsoft mock-ancient ordinal superscripts dance in and out around regular ones. What an oddity. Imaginatorium (talk) 11:52, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete Even if this compound exists, it has had no significant coverage in reliable sources and is thus not notable enough for Knowledge. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per Mike Turnbull and the fact that we do not reward "trivia bombing." Non-chemists do not appreciate the deluge that Wiki-chem could be subject to if we encourage this activity. --Smokefoot (talk) 20:41, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. According to Knowledge:Manual of Style/Chemistry, topics about chemical compounds must meet the general notability guideline to be included in Knowledge, but this one appears to not meet the criteria. Reba16 (talk) 00:28, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Regarding the coverage in Encyclopedia of the Alkaline Earth Compounds mentioned in previous comments, I am a bit skeptical; to start, the claimed formula Be(ClO3)2 and the claimed 92.4632 g/mol molecular weight seem to be contradictory. (Perhaps I misunderstand.) I concur with some of Graeme Bartlett's concerns about the source. In any case, I am not convinced there is significant coverage in reliable sources. Adumbrativus (talk) 07:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Interesting. The molecular weight for magnesium chlorate later on the page also looks wrong . XOR'easter (talk) 15:18, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
    • The claimed 92.4632 g/mol molecular weight is supposed to be Be(ClO3) and the pubchem entry CID=57502505 quoted as a reference in the article even has this drawing with unmatched charges (i.e. 2+ for the Be and 1- for the chlorate) — but is marked as "Non-live". The "correct" pubchem CID=129631187 is also quoted in the article but has no useful reliable sources associated with it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:51, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure)Amkgp 💬 17:49, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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Article is completely unreferenced and I can't find any reliable significant coverage. AviationFreak💬 21:32, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

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Here is an interview in Juxtapoz magazine, and coverage in a book on illustration. He is included in this book on Brazilian design by the Museum of Modern Art, Sao Paolo. Let's also remember that there may also be sources in Portugese.Possibly (talk) 21:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep: Judging by this WP:PRIMARY source, we should expect a GNG pass because it looks like he has arguments under WP:NARTIST 4 b) and 4 d). Turning directly to GNG, here are some independent and in-depth Portuguese or Spanish RS that others might have missed: 1, 2, and two that are not very in-depth but give indirect evidence of his notability, 3 and 4. This is on top of a bunch of coverage of his books, some of which was given above, which gives further credence to the signs for an NAUTHOR argument too even if the NARTIST direction isn't sufficient. Note that I have just included Portuguese or Spanish sources; there are lots more English sources but I assume others can find those. Some of these sources directly attest to his notability (a good sign for, say, NARTIST 1), with for example the Hoje em Dia article calling him "bastante procurado" — really sought-after. This article needs better sourcing but in terms of notability it is a comfortable keep. - Astrophobe (talk) 06:34, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 20:45, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Playing 30 mins in a Champions League qualifier against Minsk is probably about as close as she ever got to meeting WP:NFOOTBALL. I also believe that Kol fails WP:GNG. I found nothing better than what was already provided in the article in a WP:BEFORE search. Source analysis to follow below. Spiderone 18:50, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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https://www.tff.org/Default.aspx?pageId=30&kisiId=1252177 Yes Yes No This is just a profile page on the national FA website that every player has No
https://www.haberhurriyeti.com/haber/3324553/sampiyonun-hocasi-kaptani-kim Yes Yes No mentioned once No
https://www.sondakika.com/haber/haber-konak-uefa-sampiyonlar-ligi-hazirliklarina-devam-4812803/ Yes ? No mentioned once No
https://www.uefa.com/womenschampionsleague/match/2017231--konak-vs-minsk/?referrer=%2Fwomenschampionsleague%2Fseason%3D2016%2Fmatches%2Fround%3D2000669%2Fmatch%3D2017231%2Findex Yes Yes No no coverage to speak of No
https://www.milliyet.com.tr/yerel-haberler/osmaniye/osmaniye-kadin-futbol-takimi-sampiyonluk-parolasi-ile-kampa-girdi-11612629 Yes Yes No a name check No
https://www.milliyet.com.tr/yerel-haberler/hakkari/hakkarigucunde-transfer-atagi-11853756 Yes Yes No another name check No
http://www.silivrihurhaber.com/alibeyspor-tekirdag-da-zorlanmadi-5-0-65992.html Yes Yes No yet another name check No
http://trakyasporgazetesi.com/m-haber-48470.html Yes Yes No mentioned only once No
https://www.futbolamator.com/2020/03/akdeniz-nurcelikspordan-gol-yagmuru/ Yes ? No again, mentioned just once with no analysis No
https://web.archive.org/web/20151122185852/https://www.cihan.com.tr/tr/u17-kadin-milli-takiminin-aday-kadrosu-aciklandi-339807.htm Yes Yes No yet another passing mention, no depth No
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The result was delete. bibliomaniac15 06:38, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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Another WP:NCORP failure. SK2242 (talk) 18:49, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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Comment In GB Bus Magazine (though can't read what it is) and has a section in the British Bus Handbook: Notable Independents 7th Edition ISBN 9781912063550. As I can't see either I can't really say if they meet gng.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 19:08, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete - Only found one news piece which failed LOCAL, No significent coverage, Book is probably a mere mention and IMHO that alone wouldn't be enough to keep the article. –Davey2010 20:07, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was speedy delete. IAR per reasons below and at Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Sister Location Error. We do not need bureaucracy StarM 22:28, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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Part of this article reports some sort of error in Minecraft (see WP:NOTGAMEGUIDE), and part of it is inexplicable drivel about mailmen, pizza, lawnmowers, and Happy Meals. None of it is encyclopedic. I'm tempted to just speedy it as a hoax, but it seems there might be some kernel of truth underlying the article. In any event, sending it here should put a permanent end to it. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:10, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was speedy deleted per CSD G12. (non-admin closure) Bungle 18:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

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Article subject matter could be merged into the main building information modeling article. Also article is not written in encyclopedic style, subject matter notability is debatable (less than 5000 Google search engine hits), it currently has no references (apart from a vague list of external links) nor links to other Knowledge pages, and as some content is seemingly sourced from a software vendor, there may be a conflict of interest. Paul W (talk) 18:02, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Ritchie333 13:11, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Lacking independent, non-promotional sources. Anything mentioned here could easily be in the main Patriot Park article. Initially redirected but reverted without explanation or improvement by user who previously used bad policy rationale to remove a CSD tag. Etzedek24 17:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Guinness323 (talk) 20:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The article fails Knowledge:Notability (academics), having only two citations, neither of which address notability. Guinness323 (talk) 17:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was redirect to List of Bodo-language films. Consensus is to redirect the article. The article history will remain if any appropriate content can be merged. (non-admin closure) Bungle 20:07, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Not quite sure what to make of this one. For starters, it's not much of a list. Secondly, the scope ("some films 2021") seems vague and random, to put it mildly. It's barely referenced, so can't establish notability. Could be also a pointless fork of Bodo (?) films, or Indian films of 2021, or something else. The point is, there's no real point to it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:20, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 10:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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This festival certainly occurred, no question about it. And the Between the Covers source is good coverage. The issue is, that's the only in-depth source provided, and the only one I could find in searches. Several mentions on Books, but like the other sources currently provided, they only show the existence of the booklet, and don't speak to the notability of the event itself. Might be due to when it occurred, but searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage to show it passes WP:GNG. Onel5969 16:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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additional comment: - there's some serious sourcing and notability issues with some of the articles linked in the long list of name drop. Graywalls (talk) 14:25, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. bibliomaniac15 06:37, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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Other than the reviews in the Skeptical Inquirer, which speak to its lack of accuracy, there is nothing to establish notability for this book. StarM 16:36, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Tone 16:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable darts player, non-ranked and has not won any major contests. ... discospinster talk 16:16, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Tone 16:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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I can't find sources that would demonstrate WP:GNG, only press releases and passing mentions. A run-of-the-mill consulting firm. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:11, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete: searched google under the name of the article and "JEGI". Nothing of note was found. Existing sources do not prove notability. Only one possibly could (min magazine), but it was pretty short and did not mention the company. In addition, the magazine is not around anymore. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 20:23, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Even the Min magazine puff piece (such as it is) is about the CEO, not about the company. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:01, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Tone 16:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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A 2006 no consensus close. While searching is a challenge due to the number of e-forwarding services, I cannot find any sourcing on which to write an encyclopedia article about this transport protocol. It's possible it could be part of a list (of protocols?) but what that would be is unclear. StarM 15:59, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Tone 16:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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The person fails WP:ENT. Started professional acting in 2021 and WP:TOOSOON and WP:PROMOTIONALAmkgp 💬 15:42, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 19:41, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable film, does not have significant coverage by independent sources thus does not meet WP:NF BOVINEBOY2008 01:22, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • I've found some coverage such as a review from Nerdly and an article about principal photography ending from HorrorNews.net, both of which are usable to establish notability. However that's all I'm finding so far. There is other coverage, but it's almost entirely local, which isn't the best establisher of notability since local papers are likely to cover local people (present or former) and local productions. I'd need at least another review from a RS or more coverage of production from non-local sources to really make this a firm keep for me. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 04:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure we should use Nerdly as an indication of notability either. According to their About us page, anyone can submit a product for them to review - meaning any product no matter how notable could be reviewed by them and we don't have any indication of knowing. That with the fact that almost no other RS exists makes me wary. BOVINEBOY2008 10:24, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Eh, that's not much different from most outlets as most have some form of submission guide. It's not really a guarantee that they review everything or that every review will be positive, which are two of the things that would weaken a site's ability to be used as a RS. An argument in the site's favor as a RS is that it's been used as a reference in this book from Taylor & Francis, this one from Bloomsbury, and has managed to get directors of notable films in for interviews. It's not the strongest RS out there, but I'd consider it to be generally reliable as far as horror and pop culture is concerned. I wouldn't use it for political commentary or potential BLP claims, however. In any case, if they were accepting payment, reviewing everything under the sun, or had a history of only giving out puffy praise (coughcough*AICN*coughcough) then I'd be more skeptical of the site. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 11:59, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • As far as article notability goes, Nerdly isn't so major of an outlet that a review from them would merit a keep on that basis alone. Not that I think that any outlet has that sort of power, mind you. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 12:00, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Tone 16:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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The person fails WP:SPORTSPERSONAmkgp 💬 15:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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 Comment:, Ian Walters (darts player), Tony Richardson (darts player), Liam Kelly (darts player) and Joe Davis (darts player) seems non-notable too. — Amkgp 💬 16:00, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was keep. — The Earwig (talk) 20:30, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Not enough coverage in RS to establish notability. The theregister.co.uk and SD News citations are just mentions in passing. Infoworld gave it a page in 2016 but IMO that not enough to satisfy WP:GNG or WP:NSOFT. Guy Macon (talk) 15:08, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • I expected to find more/better references (After checking it in GitHub) but I can't find many of them.
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The result was redirect to Gender neutrality in English. Creating a redirect, the content is available so the editors are free to merge whatever content they feel fit (not much content in the article). Tone 16:30, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Fails WP:NOTDIC as an article solely about the definition and use of what is essentially a noun, WP:NEO for being about a neologism rarely seen in reliable sources, and WP:GNG for lacking "significant coverage in reliable sources". Even the article's creator admits there isn't "much to expand this with".

Going over the sources in the current version:

  • 1. Trivial definition from the open access megajournal PLOS One. Worth noting here that PubMed turns up 0 results for the phrase "people who menstruate", 1,294 for "menstruating women", and 14,663 for 'menstruation women' (no quotes).
  • 2. Trivial mention from Radical Teacher, a journal which according to Scopus received 0 citations from 2016-2019 and is ranked as the 1,214th journal out of 1,254 in the field of Education.
  • 3. Trivial mention from an unpublished preprint.
  • 4. Trivial definition and use from another open access megajournal.
  • 5. Trivial definition material and claim from a journal so obscure it is not recognized by Scopus, Scimago, or Google Scholar Metrics.
  • 6. Trivial defintion from a book on "critical menstruation studies"; as far as I can tell, this field has almost no existence outside of this book.

Regarding J. K. Rowling, no, this was only a small part of the controversy; see Politics of J. K. Rowling#Transgender people and sources therein. That is where material related to her belongs; it does not add to the case for this to be an article.

  • 7. Blog post which adds nothing of substance. (and is also full of bizarre claims like "medical knowledge on biological sex is based on chattel slavery")
  • 8. Passing mention in another obscure journal completely ignored by the indexing services mentioned above.
  • 9. Trivial definitional and Rowling-related material from someone's dissertation.

What scraps have been pulled together from the far reaches of academia is not enough to support non-dictionary, non-redundant content on this phrase. Crossroads 06:58, 10 February 2021 (UTC) Added and renumbered because a source was added. Crossroads 19:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Merge to Gender neutrality in English. When I started working on this I thought there'd be more but it's hard to string more than a few sentences about it. The term is new and seemingly gaining some traction but it may be the case of WP:TOOSOON indeed. Do ping me if anyone can find more in-depth coverage. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:06, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
    • I don't think there's enough even for that. These are still not great sources. Even if we go by the only source that's somewhat reliable and about this phrase, I don't think a definition in a disclaimer from a PLOS One article is worth merging. And that destination article is about neutrality between men and women, as is the vast majority of the gender neutrality topic. This isn't worth cramming in there. Crossroads 07:22, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Merge to Gender neutrality in English, per Piotrus. "People who menstruate", "people who are pregnant", etc., are fairly recent terms, arising out of gender neutrality, and somewhat controversial, provoking strong reactions from some. Coverage will only increase and a standalone article may be merited at some point, but for now, certainly appropriate for coverage in Gender neutrality in English. Bastun 09:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Regarding the idea that coverage will increase, WP:CRYSTAL applies. It does indeed get strong negative reactions, so increase is by no means a given. On that note, per WP:NEO, Knowledge is not to play a part in increasing the visibility of neologisms. Crossroads 19:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Merge to Gender neutrality in English, i.e. redirect this page to that one and move (probably in condensed form) any relevant, reliable-secondary-source-supported content from this entry to that one. The term seems to merit a mention in that article but not to be notable enough for a standalone article at this time. -sche (talk) 10:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Regarding the idea that this should be merged not into "Gender neutrality in English" but into ~"Gender neutrality in English, but trans", I haven't seen any persuasive evidence that replacing "women who menstruate" with "people who menstruate" is somehow a fundamentally different category of phenomenon to be handled in a totally different article than earlier replacements of "chairman" with "chair", nor (to look at some of the other terms suggested as candidates to be put in such a fork) that proposals like "fronthole" are somehow fundamentally different from earlier, non-trans-related, equally-uncommon feminist proposals like using "germinal" instead of "seminal" ("relating to semen") to mean "influential". ("Womxn", mentioned below, is exactly the same kind of thing as "womyn", and neither is gender-neutral.) -sche (talk) 20:06, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Merge somewhere, but probably not Gender neutrality in English - somewhere more trans-related. Btw I have changed the blatently wrong initial definition, which contradicted all 3 refs given (from "do not" to "may not")! Actually there might be more to say on this term, which is a double-edged sword that can be used either to include or exclude, or I suppose both. Isn't there a trans project who can be pinged? Johnbod (talk) 12:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Merge - This should be merged into a relevant article. I don't think this is noteworthy enough to warrant an article. --CanadianToast (talk) 20:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Draftify to something like Draft:Trans-inclusive language and write an omnibus article about proposed language reforms and their reception within and without the transgender community. (Just as person-first language and euphemisms like differently abled have been criticised by some of the people they were intended to benefit, so also terms like womxn and front hole have received mixed reactions from transgender people.) gnu57 20:48, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Merge into a trans-related article. This relatively recent trans-related gender identity terminology may be circulating within gender-speak influencer circles and Gen Y social media, but not in the general core Anglosphere and other English-speaking populations. Pyxis Solitary (yak). L not Q. 08:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:POVFORK, WP:NOT#ADVOACY, WP:NOTDICT. If there's a trans-related article at which this phrase can be mentioned, and it can be reliably sourced as being in common enough usage and with enough independent, reliable sourcing material about it to write not-just-dictionary-definition (i.e., actually encyclopedic) material about it, then fine, but that doesn't require a merge. There's nothing particularly special about the trivial amount of content presently in the page. If someone thinks otherwise, they can always WP:REFUND the page to their draftspace and merge from it, if/when there's a good merge target. I have no objection to draftifying, to serve as the first entry in a "Trans-inclusive language", or "Glossary of trans-related terms", or whatever it might be titled. But again, this is a trivial amount of content, and it need not be kept if there's not going to be a concerted effort to produce such an article.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  14:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep/merge The phrase should not just be viewed through the narrow prism of recent controversy. We have substantial pages such as Culture and menstruation which provide a broader historical and cultural context and the reader might be looking for such. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per SMCandlish, or as a second choice merge to some appropriate article, per other merge recommendations above. I don't have a specific target in mind yet. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:39, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Merge to Gender neutrality in English, per the other merge arguments above. I dispute that it belongs somewhere "more trans-related," as the definition of gender neutral language given in Gender neutrality in English is "language that minimizes assumptions about the social gender or biological sex of people referred to in speech or writing." That is exactly what the term "people who menstruate" does. Gender neutrality in English could do with some reorganization, perhaps adding a section like "Examples of gender neutral terms," but in any case the information in People who menstruate fits neatly into the scope of that article. Aerin17 (talk) 22:39, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Surely "people who menstruate" maximizes biological sex, while ignoring social gender entirely. That's rather the point of it, isn't it? Johnbod (talk) 23:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Yes, and the quote of the lead of that article shows why it cannot be the destination. Some matters are inherently sex-specific and this is one of them. Crossroads 05:05, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
The quote says "social gender or biological sex." There's a distinction between gender and sex. The term "people who menstruate" is used to refer to people of all genders, just like the other terms in that article, even if it's specific to people who were assigned female at birth. Aerin17 (talk) 05:57, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 13:44, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

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In effect a duplicate page to Schlage doch, gewünschte Stunde, BWV 53, created by an editor in the teeth of presently ongoing RfCs at the original article, as a WP:POVFORK. Should be swiftly deleted (and the creator should be made to understand that this sort of behaviour is unacceptable). Smerus (talk) 19:22, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Draftify. There is an ongoing RfC about inclusion criteria of the embedded list in the parent article. Since we're having an RfC, it's better not to radically cut down or extend the list there, but there is a chance of it resulting in a short embedded list and a link to this more expansive one. It would be beneficial for this content to be editable for those 30 days. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 01:26, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. bibliomaniac15 06:36, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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Certainly accomplished, but doesn't meet WP:GNG, and I can see nowhere where he passes any of the criteria of WP:NSCHOLAR. The response on the article talk page when the prod was removed is interesting. Onel5969 17:31, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Keep: It's indeed an interesting response, in that it demonstrates how throwing unexplained terms at newcomers can be deeply unintuitive. If half the claims here are accurate, this guy should sail past NPROF. I would not expect particularly mainstream coverage from someone in this man's position, and that would be exactly why the SNG exists in this case. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 19:30, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. He does have some highly cited papers, which seem to be published under "J Alster". He however appears to typically be middle author on a papers with a large number of coauthors, but it is hard to separate this J Alster from others. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 19:38, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Leaning delete. I have the same reservations as Russ Woodroofe regarding relative authorship contributions. This field of physics also gets high citations--many of his publications are multi-collaborator measurements of nucleon form factors, which then get cited by every experimental and theoretical paper that touches on (e.g.) proton internal structure (at least until someone measures a slightly larger (e.g.) Q2 range). Perks of having access to an accelerator, I guess. I've compiled the Scopus values for total citations, total publications, and h-index for Dr. Alster and 97 coauthors of his 5ish most cited papers. Citations: median: 8370, average: 15972, Alster: 3698. Publications: med: 136, avg: 265, A: 98. h-index: med: 46, avg: 49, A: 36. From these data I would say he is a pretty run-of-the-mill physicist for effective field theory, and so wouldn't meet PROF C1 criteria. I certainly wouldn't say the measurements provide important breakthroughs in QCD understanding. I don't know if any of the positions he's held would bring up the slack in the other PROF categories, though. JoelleJay (talk) 03:59, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Addendum: Some of the complaints about my citation analysis are valid, for example the issues with analyzing the top-cited works (which might be more likely to have older and more prominent coauthors). However, most of the alternative methods of evaluating C1 are much less appropriate as they assume uniform citation standards across the sciences, which inflates the importance of high-citation fields and diminishes that of low-citation fields. See, for example, the issues highlighted in this AfD by myself and others regarding interpreting cite counts and h-indices and the necessity of contextualizing metrics with within-field comparisons. Inasmuch as citation analysis can be used for C1 assessment--and it seems it is the #1 method here--the reliability of generalizing to every field one's personal, intuitive preconception of what constitutes "high citation number" will inevitably have much worse predictive value (re: predicting a subdiscipline's average citation count) the further one gets from one's specialty. So, I try to get a feel for a subject's subdiscipline by looking at their coauthors' metrics, and when there aren't many coauthors, I look at coauthors-of-coauthors. This provides the most practical control group for an academic's body of work--you don't have to blindly estimate impact by artificially reconstructing what constitutes a person's "field", which is usually difficult to nail down and even more difficult to make adequate comparisons within it; you just have to look up a sufficient number of coauthors across a sufficient range of time and article prominence. JoelleJay (talk) 21:40, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. I'm interested by the talk page comment that an invited review in Physics Reports on your own work is a major honour. I think that's likely to be true (it is true of certain Annual Reviews in my fields), but it doesn't fit well into our models of significance. Perhaps one of the physicists editing here could comment? The article seems to have been written by academics who know the subject is notable, and therefore don't bother to try to demonstrate it according to our (to them I suspect ridiculous) rules. The top Google Scholar citations (somewhat confused by what looks to be another J Alster), 594,491,379,216,203, seem to me enough to meet WP:PROF, even though I agree the water is muddied by some multi-author papers in there. Taking another approach, and looking at the papers the article author(s) have highlighted where Alster is the first/second author, there are some high citations here: 216, 86 and three others around 50, although others are lower (or don't actually have Alster as 1st/2nd author, at least with the limited information I'm getting from the online abstracts; it seems possible Alster was leading one team of researchers, but the authors are listed by institution: without seeing the actual publications, which are paywalled, one can't tell). Per comments elsewhere and on JoelleJay's talk page, I fear their method of citation analysis is systematically flawed. Espresso Addict (talk) 17:52, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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FWIW, Scopus reports citation highs of 315, 265, 186, 164, and 103 (none first author). Dividing the total citations by publication number for him and his 97 coauthors shows an average of 71 and median of 59 citations per paper and Dr. Alster at 34. This shouldn't be used as a major criterion to assess notability of course, but it does demonstrate how much citation goes on in this field. Another important aspect to note is that often (but def not always) in physical sciences authors are listed alphabetically, so you have to make sure the "first-author" refs actually use weighted contribution since he will very often end up alphabetically first. JoelleJay (talk) 21:40, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. The citability in GScholar is sufficiently impressive. His faculty profile page also lists a couple of prizes, Batsheva Rothschild prize, 1970 and Helena and Philip Spitzer Award, Israel Science Foundation, 1996. They seem to be from mostly pre-online era (and probably one would have to search in Hebrew anyway), but I am inclined to AGF this info. I think there is enough here for a pass of WP:PROF. Nsk92 (talk) 02:49, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. It's a high-citation field but the citation numbers from Nsk92's search look good enough for me. (I had previously looked for him as author with spelled-out first name and didn't find anything highly cited that way.) —David Eppstein (talk) 08:38, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. There's a good number of citations which justifies the creation of the article. Looks fine to me. Mightberightorwrong (talk) 12:34, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was speedy keep per WP:SK#1. A valid deletion rationale has not been advanced. See WP:DEL-REASON for examples of valid rationales. North America 09:07, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Tone 16:33, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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This article has been deleted a couple of times, and here it is again. There might be a possible redirect per WP:ATD-R, but otherwise I think we need to have a proper discussion about this. Ritchie333 12:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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I’ve only been on Wiki a short while, I would like to rubbish the above claim

Only the Drapers article mentions him at all. We need more than one source to show notability. Spiderone 15:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (Follows from point 3 of WP:BIO, ie, "The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field." I think there is a strong argument that Thind qualifies for this under impact / contributions to UK fashion. User:Kirsaan.jatt 15;09, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

That says 'Nitin Passi' Spiderone 15:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello user:spiderone Aplogies for the wrong Refference Link, this has been changed. Wiki-drapers (talk) 15:42, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
That's just the Drapers article again. He doesn't get mentioned in any other news source. Spiderone 15:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi User:Spiderone Please see 2 Articles just from drapers attached below. Drapers is a reputable source and the links as below. (It also has it’s own Wiki article page)

https://www.drapersonline.com/people/drapers-30-under-30-2021-aman-thind-ceo-missfiga https://www.drapersonline.com/people/life-in-the-fast-lane-with-missfiga

(Not casting a double vote here)I certainly think the individual falls in the same category as Tarak Ramzan Umar Kamani All British owners or CEO’s of fashion retail companies. Most articles will be on fashion related media such as Drapers or Business Inside. I think there is a line of notability especially with the Thind’s awards, achievements. Even though they seem to be lessened in this discussion page, ranking in top 30 of the UK’s most influential & top rising stars does show credibility. comment added by User:Kirsaan.jatt

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The result was redirect to List of games on I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue#Sound Charades. No independently notable, redirecting to List_of_games_on_I'm_Sorry_I_Haven't_a_Clue, where it is mentioned. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 02:28, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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I can find no evidence to suggest this topic is independently notable of the radio show it appears on. The lack of any references is a strong clue to the fact this is original research and fan generated content which is unlikely to ever be sourced or verifiable.   09:23, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 08:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable. Poorly sourced, and search finds nothing beyond the usual social media sites and listings etc. (NB: The club appears to be neighbourhood amateur one, playing in a local league only.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:59, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Tone 16:33, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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WP:BLP of an actor, not reliably sourced as passing WP:NACTOR. The only notability claim here is that he's had acting roles, and the only source is his own self-published website about himself as a real estate agent after quitting acting. As always, however, actors are not given an automatic free notability pass just because acting roles have been had -- the notability test does not hinge on listing roles, but on showing some evidence that some of his roles got him coverage in the media. Bearcat (talk) 03:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Note to closer for soft deletion: This nomination has had limited participation and falls within the standards set for lack of quorum. There are no previous AfD discussions, undeletions, or current redirects and no previous PRODs have been located. This nomination may be eligible for soft deletion at the end of its 7-day listing. --Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Daniel (talk) 10:59, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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Does not quite met WP:NBAND. One album on a small label and one album on a somewhat bigger label without a Knowledge article. WP:NOTINHERITED from former band Windir. Not really any prolific festival appearances. Geschichte (talk) 10:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • The sourcing is actually crappy: corscorpii.mysites.nl, metal1.info, corscorpii.net, lordsofmetal.nl, metalunderground.com, corscorpii.net, reflectionsofdarkness.com. It's ridiculous, actually. Geschichte (talk) 19:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep. The coverage of Cor Scorpii in Metal Hammer () and NRK () cited in the article is from reputable sources and cannot be dismissed as insignificant or unreliable. (Note that in the NRK article, the main topic is one of the band members, but it has significant coverage of the band itself - WP:GNG, "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material.") Adumbrativus (talk) 02:35, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Consensus is for the article to be retained, and that this company meets notability guidelines. North America 09:03, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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promotional and non notable. Half the refs are mere notices, others are short mentions in books or general articles (like the NYT). the rest are non authoritative brief reviews (like PC magazine). DGG ( talk ) 07:29, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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There is no reason to remove this page. Please cite specifics regarding alleged 'undisclosed paid interests.' That contention seems spurious. NCH long-standing pages merely contain factual product info that no one need pay to outline. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krosnafone (talkcontribs) 22:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC) Krosnafone (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

It would be easy to fix if it could be referenced from a reputable source, rather than replying with bluster.--Grahame (talk) 23:48, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • It's possible its program VideoPad is notable, but that does not mean that the firm necessarily is. DGG ( talk ) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete Keep. Updated position: On review of Cunard's contribution to this discussion I believe the page satifies GNG. (My previous comments just for completeness: I've just seen that this page has once already survived an AfD: the arguments in that discussion to keep do seem compelling. Looking at it afresh, the issue here is whether the subject meets WP:NCORP: A company, corporation, organization, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. I could not find any significant IRSS via Google; nor via a ProQuest database search of Australian and NZ newspapers (which is deeper and wider than Google); nor via a search of Australia's Trove newspaper archives. Having said that, Unscintillating's previous argument to keep the page has weight: "the topic has been in business since 1993, which is almost pre-internet, which shows great longevity"; as does Cunard's: "There is sufficient coverage ". Certainly IRS do NOT need to be live on the internet. While it seems NCH Software is a significant company--and as an inclusionist I have a history of attempting to save articles where possible-- based on my research it fails WP:NCORP. I would also note that objection above by Krosnafone is spurious; and his account history looks far from bonafide--including this objection he posted directly on the page. Cabrils (talk) 22:21, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Comment The previous afd was in 2014. This is now 7 years later, and standards have increased for this type of articles. That doesn't mean we should start revaluating everything, but perhaps it does mean we should start re-evaluating the borderline. DGG ( talk ) 07:00, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
  • NCH Software passes Knowledge:Notability (organizations and companies)#Significant coverage, which says:

    The depth of coverage of the subject by the source must be considered. Trivial or incidental coverage of a subject is not sufficient to establish notability. Deep or significant coverage provides an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis, or evaluation of the product, company, or organization.

    Columbia Daily Tribune and ABC's NeoTeo both have profiled the company in discussing its history and its products.

    Knowledge:Notability (organizations and companies)#Audience says:

    The source's audience must also be considered. Evidence of significant coverage by international or national, or at least regional, media is a strong indication of notability. On the other hand, attention solely from local media, or media of limited interest and circulation, is not an indication of notability; at least one regional, statewide, provincial, national, or international source is necessary.

    NCH Software is based in Canberra in Australia. It received significant coverage in international sources in an American source (Columbia Daily Tribune) and a Spanish source (ABC's NeoTeo).

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The result was keep. There is consensus that the subject meets notability guidelines. If the subject would like to have their article deleted or changed, they are welcome to avail themselves of the options listed here. (non-admin closure) gobonobo 10:32, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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There was a misplaced deletion request on the page claiming to be from the subject and the edit summary had contact details (deleted) but I'm bringing it here for evaluation. This is part of a large walled garden created around 3HO but a cursory look at the refs looks like they check out. I'm bringing here for evaluation. —SpacemanSpiff 06:19, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Sandstein 14:18, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable and non-charting track, with no significant media coverage. aNode (discuss) 09:47, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete - As a collaboration of two otherwise notable rappers, but not from an album, there is no good place to redirect. Therefore the song article could stand alone if the song is notable in its own right, but it is not. It was mentioned briefly at a few promotional sites plus some social media chatter, but it does not have the significant and reliable coverage needed to pass WP:NSONG. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete -- a song by somewhat notable rappers, but no coverage could be found. No appropriate redirect target as it is not from an album; redirect to either of the artists' article is not a good choice. (talk) 16:57, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. The Russian article at ru:watafuk?!#Чарты (that seemingly nobody seems to have bothered to look at, or at least mention here) has a long table entitled charts, suggested the sort did chart in many places, and ranked as high as #2. Assuming the cited charts/sources are significant/reliable, this should be enough for this to meet WP:NMUSIC, no? Do ping me if there are any replies. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:57, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 10:58, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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Lacks WP:GNG Jenyire2 11:38, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was Procedural keep. I'm not sure we are going to get anything out of this bundled AfD, there seems to be some coverage but I think this is best discussed in separate AfDs. Fenix down (talk) 08:28, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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A few U-15 football teams without claims to notability, and in some cases not maintained at all (e.g. the Slovakia one has a "current squad" from 2010). While some players in some of these countries went on to acquire fame, notability is not inherited.

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  • Delete per nom, no evidence that these national teams are notable. Having U21, U20, U19, U18 and U17 is usually sufficient, maybe down to U16 at a stretch. GiantSnowman 19:22, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom, we normally don't go below Under-17s to 16s. Govvy (talk) 21:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Schoolboy football. Nigej (talk) 20:55, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete all - the reporting at this age level is limited and trivial in nature. As can be seen from some of the articles, some of the players did go on to become professional footballers but a very large number did not. Whilst the fact that the pages are out of date is not a valid reason to delete them as such, it is perhaps a symptom of the fact that there just aren't enough suitable sources available to keep these up to date even if one tried to. We would also need more than just squad and fixture lists to show notability and that simply is not available for schoolboy-level football. Spiderone 23:02, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep (possibly all) — Returning from a hiatus...I just had to give my vote on this. It is my honest and humble opinion, that even though this nomination may have been well-intentioned, the nom is entirely abusive. Kosovo national under-15 football team for example has 6 well-sourced references cited (even if they may no longer be current; see Wayback machine). It is literally impossible henceforth to fail WP:GNG without an innate bias or well-based reasons to delete as per the rules for deletion for the lack of notability, which I simply do not see here I’m sorry. It seems like they all have been written off already, especially when the availability of additional references could in fact further establish the article(s). The lack of maintenance tags are also concerning giving my reasoning more validity. Doesn’t seem like these pages have had its fair shot. It is easy to start these discussions years down the line when the creators of these articles aren’t as active as they once were to strengthen them. Perhaps it is all merely too many articles for WikiProject Football to keep up with? Is this the actual concern here; the disinterest maybe among its members? This isn’t meant to be accusatory but I do beg these questions.
The reasons that I am reading in opposition for their existences are extraordinarily opinionated such as “maybe down to U16 at a stretch” (opinion #1 @GiantSnowman), “we normally don't go below Under-17s to 16s” (opinion #2 @Govvy), “some of the players did go on to become professional footballers but a very large number did not” (irrelevant as per deletion proposal @Spiderone; this had been true for players or clubs not passing for notability based on youth-status or semi-professionalism but much less for internationally-acclaimed organizations, tournaments, participants et al; they have always been placed on a higher scale. The same reasons why we have youth teams as even being notable in the first place!). Even if this did matter, one has to wonder if there is that big of a margin for would-be professionals post-U-16 who are merely just a year older and if it is by a wide margin, would it just be because of overall numbers? After all, it would make sense for the U-16 team to have had produced more professionals since inception considering they have participated in more tournaments historically. Though while both were active, what are the numbers for those years? This statistic might tell a different tale. The fact that “some may end up playing professionally” decimate the very sense being used here to oppose notability.
“There just aren't enough suitable sources available to keep these up to date even if one tried to”. @Spiderone. So this warrants a deletion or simply begs a defunct selection in the article? Should we prefer to just ignore their existences and accolades for their respective time periods? Is Knowledge not a encyclopedia for both the old and the new; the pastimes and the trending?
I sincerely urge you all to reconsider your position as most of these tournaments are FIFA-backed and thus in itself NOTABLE, along with its respective international participants, especially if the citations warrant it. Loaded opinions aside, going through with such deletions are a major disservice to the entire community and just begets mass deletions across the board with little regard to the principles laid out before us.
My question for you all is simply this, “if I could add 40 independent citations to each article, would it change your minds?” —If the answer is still no, is there not a bias? How about a domestic tournament that has only had a single round-robin competition that only garnered 3 citations, would your answer be to keep? —If your answer is yes, is there not a bias? Would there have even been a nomination? This is my point precisely. Let us get this right. Thank you all for your time concerning this matter. Savvyjack23 (talk) 05:51, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
You claim "Kosovo national under-15 football team for example has 6 well-sourced references cited (even if they may no longer be current; see Wayback machine). It is literally impossible henceforth to fail WP:GNG without an innate bias or well-based reasons to delete as per the rules for deletion for the lack of notability, which I simply do not see here I’m sorry.". The problem is that when we analyse these six sources, we get the following:
  • Source 1 is a database of FIFA country codes, so not a significant source and not a source about the Kosovo U15 team
  • Source 2 is from FIFA.com, so not an independent source, and is about Kosovo football in general, not specifically about the U15 team
  • Source 3 to 6 are from the Kosovo Football Federation, so even less independent.
Contrary to what you claim, these 6 sources are nowhere near what is required by the GNG and don't establish any notability at all. Fram (talk) 08:51, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
I would agree with Fram's analysis of the sources provided. Of course, if independent sources can be presented that specifically focus on the under-15 teams for any of these nations that clearly demonstrate significance, then I will change my stance. Spiderone 12:26, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep (Kosovo U15) — Comparing Kosovo U15 with other teams like Bosnia and Herzegovina U15, Slovakia U15 and Vanuatu U15, which have not been active for years with Kosovo U15 that is an active team which every year (from 2018) plays international friendly or competitive matches (tournament or match organized by UEFA) is unacceptable, references which are used to Kosovo U15, most are about matches and tournaments in which it has participated and more references are expected to be added soon after updating the Football Federation of Kosovo's website. While Italy, Portugal and Spain are entitled to an article about national U15 teams, why Kosovo is not has this right, a team which is among the most active teams in this age group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krelana (talkcontribs) 15:50, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
The Italy team is definitely not notable either. Spiderone 18:59, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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Comment - How does that matter though Lugnuts? What exactly is the difference between U15 and U16 and U17? Your reasoning isn’t at all valid for determining WP:GNG. They are playing in an international competition in their respective FIFA-backed regions (in this case UEFA). Savvyjack23 (talk) 16:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Savvyjack23 - please can you provide WP:THREE good sources for one of the four teams that is listed in this discussion to demonstrate WP:SIGCOV? Any of the 4 teams will do. Spiderone 19:58, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Spiderone - With great pleasure. Here’s coverage for Bosnia and Herzegovina which headlines this group. Savvyjack23 (talk) 22:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Home sources

Reprezentacija (articles from 2017 to as recent as July, 2020, even within a pandemic)

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Pages to 35+ more articles...

Sportsport (2020 +more)

Bhfanaticos (2018)

Dnevno (2017)

Fksarajevo (2016)

Fokus (2015)

Jelah (2012)

I think you get the idea; well established in own country.

Elsewhere

1 (UEFA editorial, English, pg 45, April 2016 edition)

2 (U.S., English, 2018)

3 (U.S., English, 2018)

4 (Zambia, English, 2020)

5 (Zambia, English, 2020)

6 (Sarajevo Times, for English-expats in Bosnia & Herzegovina, 2020)

7 (Lithuanian, 2018)

Spiderone; Here's coverage for Kosovo U15. In these two links that I will publish, there are two, let's say folders from the two main sources which report on the activity of Kosovo U15, in the Football Federation of Kosovo's link you can find all the activity of the team from summer 2016, which includes all gatherings (call-ups), training camps and matches, while at the Telegrafi's link are the competitive activity of the team. These links are safe as they follow the activity of the team step by step. Krelana (talk) 10:52, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

I think that there is enough here to suggest that there might be some significant coverage. Perhaps these teams would be best discussed in separate AfDs. Spiderone 22:49, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Tone 16:33, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Fails WP:GNG, lacks good Refs, and some parts have flowery wording. Signed,The4lines |||| 18:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete: a lot of the references cite his CV and some of the references look like promotion and/or advertising his businesses. So I am inclined to say this is a case where WP:GNG is not satisfied. --Whiteguru (talk) 09:30, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. There is a weak consensus that the article can be improved instead of deleted. Ritchie333 19:43, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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Nothing notable about him. No coverage found. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 20:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment - I wonder if sources can be found regarding the tour of Namibia. In any case, information for X Cricket Board cricketers may be significantly harder to come by than for X county (not County Championship, necessarily) cricketers. Bobo. 20:47, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep - as with a huge range of other AfDs, the correct standard is not WP:GNG, but WP:CRIN which is passed by virtue of playing List A cricket. Although this is a pretty minimal pass. DevaCat1 (talk) 18:15, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
    @DevaCat1: Sorry but that is incorrect. CRIN is a project essay that has no community standing, especially in AFD discussions. The guideline is NCRIC, which unfortunately enjoys very little community support in respect of domestic cricketers due to being overly permissive. It is also merely a presumption of GNG-level coverage. Offering a WP:VAGUEWAVE at such weak guidelines carries very little weight at AFD. wjemather 18:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
    Sorry, Wjemather, I think you're wrong here, and what you have said in your reply does little to support your contentions. WP:VAGUEWAVE is of literally no relevance, as that would require that I haven't said why WP:CRIN is met. Rather, you will see that I specifically said that it is met by virtue of playing List A cricket. Please don't cite guidelines that are clearly of no relevance against me. Moreover, WP:CRIN is both on the front page of WikiProject Cricket, and states in terms that "his is the expanded detail of the agreed guidelines, that are summarised in the Cricket section of the Notability (sports) guidelines." It is also of no importance whatsoever whether you think that NCRIC enjoys community support- the notability guideline exists (albeit that this is a summary of the full guideline in WP:CRIN), and is the relevant one here. If you can say why I have incorrectly applied the guidelines, then please do so, and that would be appreciated by all concerned, rather than us getting dragged into irrelevant points. DevaCat1 (talk) 19:03, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
    @DevaCat1: It isn't me saying it, it is the wider community: this; this; this, to list just three – there are also dozens of recent AFDs to confirm this. Passing NCRIC (or pretty much any of NSPORT) is not an automatic pass to a standalone article, especially when that pass is trivial, nominal or illusionary. You are also drawing an equivalence between List A and "highest-level" that simply doesn't exist. wjemather 19:32, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
    @Wjemather: I could point to the same discussion and note a wide range of comments in support of WP:NCRIC; in any case, your comment breaches WP:VOTE if you think that simply counting comments supports your view. The number of AFDs would not even pass the criterion of being a vote, as 80% of recent AFDs in cricket are from a single user, and therefore indicative of nothing. First class and List A matches are defined as such by the ICC Classification of Official Cricket document, which provides a clear, objective and independent criterion which is followed around the world. There is no domestic standard above those levels, irrespective of which sides the match is between. DevaCat1 (talk) 20:14, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
    I very much doubt that, but if you do find such a discussion outside of WP:CRIC, let me know. You are misunderstanding the ICC's role, the criteria they lay down and how the various national bodies apply them. wjemather 20:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak keep: 1 List-A match and a few bits mean it just scrapes on WP:GNG. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 20:27, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Tone 16:34, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Nothing notable about him. No coverage found. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 20:47, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Comment - another initial-only cricketer which has slipped by over the last however many years. Strange, given that they're all within the same categories (not an attack, by the way, just an observation). Bobo. 20:49, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. North America 08:12, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Nothing notable about him. No coverage found. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 20:48, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Tone 16:35, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Nothing notable about him. No coverage found. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 20:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete we don't even know his full name, fails WP:BASIC. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: I have no cricket experience, and have no opinion on whether this should be kept or deleted. However, "we don't even know his full name" is a culturally inaccurate statement. The subject is Sri Lankan, and Tamil and Sinhalese Sri Lankans frequently use initials (including in official government records) to represent patronymic or given names, similar to how it is done in in Tamil Nadu. I will continue to reiterate this until people stop making this off-the-cuff "argument." Gnomingstuff (talk) 15:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Got it; this isn't meant to single you out (it's come up a lot over the past few days since for whatever reason there has been a spree of Sri Lankan cricket AfDs recently), and this isn't a keep argument, just something I've noticed. Gnomingstuff (talk) 17:20, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • If you know nothing about cricket than you should take your defense of these junk waste of space nothing filler "atricles" and go and get educated on what it requires to create an article, which is a lot more than knowing that one one day once someone played a game of cricket. These articles are utter and complete junk, and your obstructionist attack on the deletion process is making Knowledge worse.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:06, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
  • It appears you missed the fact that I neither mentioned the word "keep" nor advocated for keeping the article, anywhere. I do not care about this article either way, and I am not defending it. What I am defending is the basic fact that Western naming conventions are not adhered to everywhere in the world. A person in Sri Lanka being named in Sri Lankan fashion is not a referendum on his notability either way, arguing otherwise is culturally ignorant, and cultural ignorance is not a valid argument. You are free to find other, valid arguments.
Example: A. R. Rahman is an extremely well-known individual. He was born A. S. Dileep Kumar, and our article on him states as much. This is not because "we don't even know his full name," it's because that is how naming conventions work in his country. Again, you are free to "educate yourself" on this matter. Gnomingstuff (talk) 07:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Ritchie333 10:58, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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Since June 2017 Innovacom fails to meet Knowledge's notability guideline for companies and organizations. --Dirge Jesse (talk) 22:14, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete Completing nomination on behalf of newly-registered account--above text is copied from article talk page. As for my own view, provided references are press releases and/or passing mentions. They appear to be a quite active company, but my initial searching didn't turn up any reliably-sourced material about them which would satisfy WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. @Dirge Jesse: For future AfD nominations, please fully follow the procedures at WP:AFDHOWTO. Thank you. --Finngall 22:58, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep The firm is notorious mainly thanks to the ventures it supports; which is the purpose of a private equity firm. Its inherent notability is more obvious from French reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zulu (talkcontribs) 08:15, February 11, 2021 (UTC (UTC) Zulu (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
@Zulu: I found lots of mention of the company as part of material about other companies, mainly (as noted above) press releases which carry little weight here. Can you point us to a non-PR article about Innovacom in English or French or any other language? --Finngall 22:14, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep Innovacom page in French fully respects Knowledge’s notability guidelines. Innovacom page in English remains useful for Non-French speaking members (Disclaimer: I work for this company ; yet it remains an honest comment!) Frederic Humbert (talk) 19:45, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
@Fhumbert: As different-language Wikipedias operate independently of each other and each sets its own policies and guidelines, an article's existence on fr-wiki does not in itself justify an article on en-wiki. --Finngall 22:14, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
I agree - and the French Knowledge doesn't have the equivalent of WP:NCORP either. HighKing 22:10, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete The criteria for establishing notability for companies/organizations as per WP:NCORP is for multiple sources (at least two) of significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. None of the references in the article meet the criteria, most are announcements and PR and having searched I am unable to locate any references that meet the criteria. Topic fails WP:NCORP. HighKing 22:09, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Jack Frost (talk) 11:09, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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I have declined a bunch of speedy tags on the article, as there are too many sources to make a clear and unambigious delete, but I'm not sure what else to do with this, so I'm bringing discussion here. I am neutral. Ritchie333 00:11, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

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Comment Per WP:HEY, I have cleaned up and revised the article, and added many additional sources; the additions and revisions help confirm WP:GNG notability due to the significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable sources. Beccaynr (talk) 21:33, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
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  • Comment Per WP:NMODEL/WP:NACTOR, the MensXP profile features Chopra as a model, discusses Chopra's roles as an actor, and specifically focuses on her role in the MeToo movement in India, which constitutes "unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment," and is further emphasized in the Buzzfeed News profile of the MeToo movement in Bollywood, which includes a focus on Chopra, as well as the SheThePeople.TV report describing Chopra as one of the "significant pillars" of the MeToo movement, and Cosmopolitan India honoring her as the 2019 Editor's Panel Feminist Voice of the Year. Beccaynr (talk) 01:47, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Comment I have also added references from The Indian Express (2016), SheThePeople.TV (2016), and India Today (2018) that focus on her work as a model and activist, before her involvement in the MeToo movement, which helps add encyclopedic content and context for her role in the MeToo movement. Her role in the MeToo movement was also reported in the India Times, Times of India, Deccan Chronicle, AbpLive, The Indian Express, NDTV, ZeeNews, The Economic Times, and News18. Beccaynr (talk) 16:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC) Reuters also reported on her activism in 2019, after and separate from her involvement in the MeToo movement. Beccaynr (talk) 19:48, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep and move to 2021 New York nursing home scandal.. (non-admin closure) JJP...MASTER! JJP... master? 18:21, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

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Too narrow a topic for a stand-alone article, should be discussed at COVID-19 pandemic in New York (state). My attempt to redirect there was reverted. power~enwiki (π, ν) 05:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Keep: The COVID-19 pandemic in New York (state) is huge with 382 references and counting. This article should be broken down into smaller articles. Andrew Cuomo is a higher than average profile governor. His administration's response to nursing homes has bi-partisan condemnation. This issue has international news coverage. This has been a growing controversy and will likely get much bigger now that his administration is being investigated by EDNY and the FBI. The article is broadly referenced by at least 9 reputable news outlets. BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56091682 Al Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/15/cuomo-mistake-not-providing-nursing-home-death-data-faster Yousef Raz (talk) 05:39, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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Rename to something like 2021 New York nursing home scandal. I think there is enough factual material to spin this out, and it is being treated as an independent news event by the press, but the current title makes it look too close to a POV fork. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 06:18, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Update I've started an official move request to this name; feel free to chime in there. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 09:19, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep but rename: The name of this article is absolutely awful, one of the worst I have ever seen on a serious page; but the content is a major scandal that has received national investigation and extensive international coverage. It is also a relatively long-lived scandal that is well past WP:RECENT/breaking news territory -- this has been covered since last spring -- and will undoubtedly receive continued coverage given the FBI investigation and the upcoming New York mayoral election (so far most of the candidates haven't weighed in but it's bound to happen eventually given the strained relationship between the De Blasio and Cuomo administrations). It's also plausible that people besides Cuomo will be implicated -- more plausible than the alternative, I would guess, it's kind of already started to happen -- so the subject most likely stands alone in a way that a hypothetical Cuomo campaign gaffe would not. 2021 New York nursing home scandal seems like a good enough name. Gnomingstuff (talk) 08:03, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep, rename and tag with Template:POV - A notable subject, but the article only includes sources where Cuomo defends his handling of the situation, if that argument is subsequently refuted. Cuomo's other statements on the subject should be included for balance, such as reported here and here. SailingInABathTub (talk) 13:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep/Rename As per above. Notable, the the current name is bad. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:39, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Merge to Andrew Cuomo. I will be the first to admit that I think Gov. Cuomo has blood on his hands for his criminal order to force infectious Covid-19 patients into nursing homes, all the more so because the excess hospital space created was never adequately used so there was no actual need to rush sick patients out of hospitals to where they could infect more people, but I do not think this issue merits a seperate article, I think it needs to be in the article on Cuomo.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep Especially since the story is just unfolding. I'd hate to see censorship on Knowledge by trying to cover up these death. Prins van Oranje 17:09, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep - the article for Andrew Cuomo is not enough for this recent controversy, and it'd be inappropriate to fill half of the COVID-19 pandemic in New York article with this. CaliIndie (talk) 17:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
    And yes, renaming is in order, the current title reads like a run-on sentence. CaliIndie (talk) 17:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Merge to Andrew Cuomo or rename. I think the two paragraphs already in Cuomo's main article does a good job summarizing the scandal and its own article is currently not needed. Kyjama (talk) 20:14, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Jack Frost (talk) 11:11, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Doesn't appear to satisfy WP:COMPANY. All I see beyond routine announcements is a couple of Motley Fool articles. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:09, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • https://ir.tellurianinc.com/analyst-coverage has a list of firms and analysts who publish analyst reports about Tellurian:
    Firm Analyst
    Bank of America Merrill Lynch Julien Dumoulin-Smith
    Cowen Jason Gabelman
    Credit Suisse Securities Spiro M Dounis
    DNB Markets Joergen Lian
    Evercore ISI Sean Morgan
    Morgan Stanley Devin McDermott
    Raymond James Justin Jenkins
    ROTH Capital Partners John M. White
    Scotia Howard Weil Alonso Guerra-Garcia
    Seaport Global Securities Sunil Sibal
    Stifel Ben Nolan
    Tuohy Brothers Craig Shere
    Webber Research & Advisory LLC Michael Webber
    Wolfe Research Sam Margolin
    Cunard (talk) 09:29, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: Added the above sources mentioned, as well as some more. It needs a review and expansion, ideally from someone more knowledgeable about business news and/or the gas industry; I also worry that I overcompensated for the puffery that was there by skewing too negative. At any rate, though, it should now more than demonstrate that it meets WP:CORP. Gnomingstuff (talk) 02:15, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep the list of brokers covering this company, alone, indicates notability --Devokewater 17:26, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 19:06, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

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Covert advertising from a blocked sockpuppet account. MrsSnoozyTurtle (talk) 04:07, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete A piece of advertisement. references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Knowledge article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Timberlack (talk) 05:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
    @Timberlack: I would invite you to reconsider your reasoning. There are several references on the article with extensive coverage of the subject. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 06:23, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
    @Timberlack: As per your contrib history, you've been commenting on indian businessmen related AFD's, within 9 minutes you passed comments on 3 AFD's, Can you share how did you check the references so quickly? Hums4r (Let's Talk) 06:45, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
    Blocked for WP:UPE. MER-C 13:29, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Can you name the blocked sockpuppet account and point out the covert advertising? Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 06:23, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Hi, AfD nominator here. The article was published on 12 January by Zeyan, a blocked sockpuppet of Hums4r. The concern regarding covert advertising is for the company KashBook and Stalwart Esports. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle (talk) 21:34, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
      • Hi Again MrsSnoozyTurtle, I’ve already clarified the part of using “Zeyan” account to publish it on the SPI page, moreover it was not published, they moved it back to draft space and then the page was edited and published by Fences and windows, you should perhaps have a look at the edit history, also point out the part that looked as “covert advertisement” to you, i am very interested in learning about it and removing it, since i was the major contributor to this article.Hums4r (Let's Talk) 22:30, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
        • Hello MrsSnoozyTurtle. I see your concern about advertising, but I'm not sure what the solution is if the subjects pass WP:GNG and the articles are written neutrally. You would have a point if Stalwart eSports is not notable; Zeyan Shafiq would then only be notable for a single event (founding KashBook) and the article would have to be rewritten to focus on the event (i.e. "Founding of KashBook") rather than Shafiq. But as I mentioned, this depends on Stalwart eSports not being notable (and would be grounds for an AfD on that article too). Are you suggesting that? Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 07:34, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Since i have a COI, i won't suggest to keep or delete, i would just mention this comment. The Article was written by me and then reviewed by experienced wikipedians like Fences and windows, TheAafi, Kohlrabi Pickle and many more, the article was properly check and reviewed and was even posted to 'DYK' section. There has been a discussion earlier regarding the references as well and they were reliable as per wikipedia policies. I don't see 'Covert advertising from a blocked sockpuppet account' on this article because i've been a major contributor to this and apart from me all other editors who have edited this aren't sockpuppets/ blocked.Hums4r (Let's Talk) 06:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Speedy Keep This article wasn't created by Zeyan, rather by Hums4r; see diff. Hums4r also appears to be major contributor of this article, and he is not blocked as a sockpuppet. The AfD nomination rationale is vague and not a valid reason. This article would remain because it merits a standalone article. ─ The Aafī 08:58, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
    • We may say for a while, Zeyan account was compromised, "but nonetheless this account was only used to move the article from draftspace to mainspace, and that action was subsequently reverted". This article has been moved to mainspace through the procedural process of AfC. ─ The Aafī 09:01, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

changing to Keep: Per significant coverage that we find in a number of sources available in the article. Note: I've struck my earlier speedy keep comment after Hums4r's global block. ─ The Aafī 19:30, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete Clearly a piece of promotion and advertisement. References do not show that the subject qualifies for a Knowledge article—that, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Even the details provided about subject are baseless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HACKER KASH (talkcontribs) 13:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
HACKER KASH is a sockpuppet account - see Knowledge:Sockpuppet investigations/Sardar Nadir Ali
  • Keep. I edited the draft after it was raised on a noticeboard to ensure it was neutral and based in reliable sources and then I moved it live. I'm confident with subject is notable for more than one thing - starting KashBook and Stalwart eSports - and that the article is not unduly promotional. The coverage is indepth, specifically about the subject and in multiple independent reliable sources, mainly from India. The blocked account, which may be the article subject's, has not been identified as a sockmaster or sockpuppet for the article creator, who disclosed contacting the subject to get a photo - AfD is not SPI, so this is the wrong venue. p.s. I've been mentoring the article creator since then. Fences&Windows 13:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Fences and windows, I do not get any indication from the sources that they are independent and reliable. Ultimately, all but one of the secondary sources appear to be part of a PR campaign. Each article essentially parrots the others, with all being published (for the most part) days apart. Perryprog (talk) 17:56, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
      • Sources being similar doesn't necessarily mean it's a PR campaign; Indian press seems to copy each other even more than do Western media. These are the earliest sources I can find: . KashBook then fell apart a few months later through jealousy and squabbling: , a source I'd missed before now. Fences&Windows 19:09, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment If the Stalwart esports is an international gaming organization, why it is not registered? and Kashbook isn't working also because that was also the act of Anti National activity. HACKER KASH http://www.catchnews.com/science-technology/kashmir-s-social-network-kashbook-is-no-more-and-not-because-of-the-government-76694.html— Preceding unsigned comment added by HACKER KASH (talkcontribs) 14:12, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
HACKER KASH is a sockpuppet account - see Knowledge:Sockpuppet investigations/Sardar Nadir Ali
  • Note to closing admin: Its now only that I only noticed Hums4r was just a sock account. So I had a detailed study on this person Zeyan. He even shared this wikipedia article on social media for promotional purpose. So I would like to strongly stand with my early opinion. 'Delete Kichu🐘 06:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
@Kashmorwiki: Knowledge considers the Hums4r account to be a sockmaster – the Shahzada Iqbal, Zeyan and Prakrutiprajapanti accounts are considered to be sockpuppets – see WP:SPI/Hums4r/archive and block log.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:55, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

*Keep. The reason for nomination isn't clear, but in any event, I don't see anything that can't be fixed with a little rewriting. Certainly nothing that warrants WP:TNT. Separately, a couple of other editors have suggested that the subject doesn't meet WP:GNG without explanation or reference to the several independent news articles that profile him in depth. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 02:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete or merge Merge into KashBook. On further reflection, I am modifying my vote. I have been uncomfortable with how, despite the subject ostensibly passing GNG, the article reads so promotionally. I don't think the articles were paid for, but they have a human interest element to them (a precocious Kashmiri teenager creating something techy to work around a ban by the big bad government in Delhi). KashBook is not a revolutionary piece of software, nor did it take Kashmir by storm (it was in the top 22 social media platforms in the valley alone - very far from the top), and Stalwart Esports are not some wunderkind team. Both of them derive their notability from the circumstances in which they were created. I think the repeated wording (which Perryprog references in their vote) is a sign of poor journalism, not payment – I've encountered the same in sources for other India/Pakistan related articles I've contributed to – and it indicates that they've all copied off of each other. But this is good enough reason for me to doubt that these articles generate notability value. I'm also uncomfortable with how the subject is openly using the Knowledge page for self-promotion on his social media platforms. People who pass GNG on their own are seldom bothered by whether or not they have a Knowledge article. I am not persuaded that he is notable yet. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 01:28, 22 February 2021 (UTC) Amended vote from "Delete or merge into KashBook" to "Merge into KashBook" on 00:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
  • I had expected that one of the original contributors to this article would have created one by now... but if not, then I am happy for it to be deleted or draftified and rewritten as an article on KashBook. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 09:13, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. Two of the deletion votes claim that references in third-party sources are just passing mentions. I checked four of the third-party citations and all of them were significant coverage.-- Toddy1 (talk) 04:25, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Whilst this deletion debate has been going on, the article has been expanded and improved. There are enough citations to good quality independent sources that an editor could even remove two of them on the grounds of WP:CITETRIM, and he/she was probably right to do so.
There have been dubious editors on both sides of the AFD debate; some of these have been blocked for sock/meat puppetry. Personally I wish a checkuser could be run on every account/IP address that participated in this AFD, as I am sure it would catch a few more. In addition, there is an editor on each side whose activity on Knowledge consists mainly of participating in AFDs or editing articles subject to AFDs. The pro-deletion sockpuppets argued that there was no evidence of not significant coverage; this was untruthful. There is an argument that Shafiq's companies used press releases - and the Indian/Pakistan press used these to write articles (just like Western newspapers use press releases from government organisations and from companies). There is nothing wrong with the press receiving press releases, doing some fact checking and then using information from the press releases.-- Toddy1 (talk) 21:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Toddy1 Personally I wish a checkuser could be run on every account/IP address that participated in this AFD, as I am sure it would catch a few more. this is pretty gross and egregious and I'd expect an editor of your tenure to WP:AGF. The implication here that anyone beyond blocked sock puppets are participating in some nefarious game is pretty disgusting on all counts. CUPIDICAE💕 21:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. Strongly supporting the the comment of TheAafi. –Kammiltalk05:30, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. I strongly support to keep this article live as the subject is covered in various reliable sources. The article was even on DYK section. An article that was in the Main page section of Knowledge must be enough notable, as it made its way there, I wonder why is this discussion going on. I also came across a delete comment from a user who forgot to sign the comment. Peerzada Mohammad Iflaq (talk) 08:53, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Must be deleted. I strongly support to delete this article . Because it like to be promotional. I follow up this person and find he use this wiki page for verifying social media. Is a simple thing is notable for news reference? Beside wikipedia should not promote any thing like that, which break countries law. . Do something by keeping national thing first.Some person acted like they connect to this article in any condition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.127.95.163 (talk) 13:09, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Just a note that Hums4r has been globally locked for xwiki spamming on multiple accounts. CUPIDICAE💕 17:11, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Most indicative thing here is the wording repeated across multiple sources, which makes me think they were PR-campaigned articles—every single source that was published in 2017 seems to be a part of this. Just look at how many have incredibly similarly worded paragraphs on how they "learnt HTML tags by himself at the age of 11". The rest of the articles look similarly spammy, often with dubious red flags like image credits being from "special arrangement". The only source that could really possibly be considered reliable would be to Vice and Business Insider, neither of which are terrible good. The BI article also looks to be a part of the PR campaign due to its content. I'd encourage the participants to throughly read through some of the sources listed, as they all appear to be very sub-par. Perryprog (talk) 17:53, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete as per my several previous analysis of the sources - this is a stellar PR job, but ultimately unencyclopedic as it's not organic coverage (it's paid for) and are regurgitated press releases and user submissions to shady media outlets. CUPIDICAE💕 19:15, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm sure Shafiq is promoting himself, but so do many other people. If India Today, The Economic Times, The Times of India, The Nation (Pakistan), Vice India, and Ravi Agrawal are all shady sources that publish for pay then we'd best bulk delete most articles about India and Pakistan. For the esports story there was an Agence France-Presse newswire, which is how many stories find their way into the media. Fences&Windows 12:10, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Fences and windows Actually, most Indian (and Pakistani) news sources indeed do exactly that, which is why a lot of them aren't regarded as reliable sources (the Times of India failed a discussion at RSN and editors are advised against using it, also see The_Times_of_India#Paid_news). Having said that, your link looks like an actual story as opposed to advertorial. Black Kite (talk) 13:56, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Assuming you're talking about this, Black Kite, that appears (to me) to be a regurgitated press release as opposed to organic journalism, which is par for the course for TOI. CUPIDICAE💕 14:19, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
@Fences and windows, I trust @Praxidicae's judgement on sources & tbh I think I trust them on this also. @Black Kite is also apt when they say most Indian sources do just that(I would know, I’ve lived in India and I’m part Indian) The aforementioned sources you listed save for TOI are actually regarded to as reliable sources in India but we must keep in mind that reliable sources and reliable pieces aren’t one and the same & reliable sources also publish unreliable pieces(more prevalent in Nigeria though where I reside currently). Celestina007 (talk) 22:35, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Note I have just removed a "Keep" !vote from the page as I have indefinitely blocked the user for threats against others, and attacking an editor who has commented "Delete" here. Black Kite (talk) 08:27, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete The article has completely advertising taste and no doubt it’s a part pf a PR work. I checked the Zeyan Shafiq’s Social Media platforms and found that the article is a paid edit. Because on 14th January the user User:Fences_and_windows moved the Draft:Zeyan Shafiq from Draft space to main space. On the same date after the article done he posted screenshot of Knowledge article on his story on Facebook. Also yesterday their Facebook page Stalwarts eSports connecting Stalwart Esports got verified and he shared it on his Facebook account. In my conclusion both of these Article Zeyan Shafiq and Stalwart Esports are well planned PR paid edit for social media branding and advertising. Also the edit history of both articles looks spam Ravishingstar (talk) 06:11, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete I want to keep some question
1.If any one open a esports team which not yet participate in any notable competitive game even not win a compitision how may it notable?
2.If i issue some paid or free pr or news in this simple thing is it notable?
3.If everyone start to do this cheap thing like zeyan for verifying their social account in future it could be more bad.
4. If one create a app seeing youtube cheap course he is not a web develoer or else respective member said zeyan.
5.Last month i crate a video chatting app if i submit some news article by paying money can I will be eligible for wiki page.That's nit fair with the greatest person of the earth because :Knowledge is the place where great people get approved.
Do something like this cheap thing.
In pubg championship many indian team won and perticipate but they don’t di this types of thing for social handle verification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.127.95.163 (talk) 14:51, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep I have added multiple more reliable source references to the Zeyan Shafiq as per WP:RS and WP:BLPRS and WP:SIGCOV. It should meet the basic WP:GNG to fit in. Regarding paid release, Indian articles usually copy from other sources and post them. They're not likely to be paid and all the Paid Releases usually come with warning's or are labelled as brand posts so doesn't look like paid releases but they can be removed and the article could be edited accordingly and saved. Also via talk page this article has been nominated for DYK and shouldn't be removed on the basis of unreliable sources rather should be edited and those Unreliable sources should be removed or used as primary references to enrich the article. Subject's work has been widely covered as well can be checked by simple search over google. The esport organisation has been in print/TV news for their collaboration. I'm posting this to save the article because this AfD has been influenced by Bad-faith votes and Rivalry. If required I'll remove the unreliable sources. 2409:4050:E9B:4CE2:495C:1A7D:80DB:8083 (talk) 20:53, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
You'll need to redact your egregious personal attack, read WP:NPA and WP:AGF. CUPIDICAE💕 21:12, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
No personal attacks i just replied with my knowledge of organic/reliable and paid sources, why did you think it wasn't in good faith and it was a personal attack? Let the closing admin and the community decide and my response wasn't for anyone specifically it was general for the Closing admin.2409:4050:E9B:4CE2:495C:1A7D:80DB:8083 (talk) 21:33, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
I agree with Praxidicae. Your comment "this AfD has been influenced by Bad-faith votes and Rivalry" is at odds with WP:AGF towards other editors. MrsSnoozyTurtle (talk) 21:27, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete - Commissioned sources are, at best, primary sources and as this is a biography such sources are pretty much worthless for anything. Whether or not the outlet has EiCs that do their job and disclose the paid-for articles is immaterial; if it's a commissioned article being cited for a biography, it needs to hit the bricks. —A little blue Bori v^_^v 01:37, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment - Is this «notable for more than one thing - starting KashBook and Stalwart eSports»? Really? Perhaps the leading paragraph should mention what these two things are, concisely, then? In the current revision I am not convinced that the notability criteria are met. --Gryllida (talk) 01:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Just dropping in to add that there is at least one reliable source: India Connected: How the Smartphone Is Transforming the World's Largest Democracy, a book published by Oxford University Press, that acknowledges the significant attention Shafiq received. It does so in this line: That evening, I met Zeyan Shafiq, who had become something of a tech celebrity in Kashmir. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 03:47, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
*Comment: This is WP:BLP1E, He can’t be notable just because of one event that has happened years ago. The reason for not voting Del is to confirm:- Since Kashbook has had extensive coverage, does it qualify as notability? Can someone explain? -- Jammumylove Talk to me or 16:32, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Change to Keep or weak keep few sources about e-sport work , so isn't BLP1E. -- Jammumylove Talk to me or 19:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete or merge the biography for which it has received media attention is Kashbook (a non notable app with no historical records and popularity). The available sources do not discuss the app or its developer(s) independently, but they have covered Censorship in Kashmir for which the app has received media coverage. In general terms, it fails to satisfy WP:NSOFT and WP:BIO. None of the sources discuss the subject separate from government bans. I would also suggest merge the article to Censorship in Kashmir. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 20:23, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
  • keep requires some writing.looks to meet wp:gng wp:rs easily with many secondary sources,books and was on main page as per talk page.also wp:atd says if editing can improve the page,it should be edited rather then deleted. ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 02:10, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Tone 16:33, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Fails WP:NBUSINESSPERSON. Only coverage seems to be announcements when she took over Tellurian Inc and later resigned. I've also nominated Tellurian for deletion. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:04, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete or redirect to Tellurian assuming it's kept -- the company itself has substantial news coverage, but she doesn't seem notable outside of it. The only coverage I found was routine announcements of being appointed/resigning from various boards. Gnomingstuff (talk) 08:11, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Most of the references are about Tellurian. The two references that speak to her don't encompass WP:GNG, general notability, as per above comment. --Whiteguru (talk) 09:39, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Procedural close given that the nominator is checkuser blocked. Barkeep49 (talk) 18:52, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

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This page is a BLP, does not have sources, and have a lot of other issues. Larryzhao123 (talk | contribs) 19:57, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Comment. While indeed a BLP with a number of issues, AfD is not cleanup. I have done just a couple chronological, punctuation, and wording fixes, as well as added headings/subheadings just to make it easier for other editors to review. I am not familiar with racing or racing-related sources in the least, so in the spirit of WP:CIR will leave it to editors who know more about the subject. There are Swedish sources solely about the subject here, here, and here. --Kbabej (talk) 00:16, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Tone 16:33, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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I don't believe this artist meets the standards set out in WP:NMG. Was "compared" to Britney Spears, appeared in un-aired TV specials. I can't find much coverage of her albums or singles. Article's sources include multiple broken links that I don't see replacements for, and links to facebook. Just overall, I don't believe this article stands up to the guidelines. Gordonrox24 |  03:07, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was redirect to Hedjaz railway. Daniel (talk) 01:01, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Fails WP:V. The only online mentions I can find seem to be about the Hedjaz railway (in French: "Chemin de fer du Hedjaz"); and even the article on Britannica (here) does not mention this, although it mentions the other one, Hedjaz Jordan Railway. Absent any sources (and then, even if some where found, that would still not meet WP:N), should be deleted. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Note If you ask me, a redirect might be okay, but not from this unattested, grammatically wrong and miscapitalised (per my knowledge of French) title; which should therefore be deleted. Syrian Hedjaz railway might do fine. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Delete for now. Attempts at searching with "Chemin de Fer de Hedjaz Syrie", "Syrian Hedjaz Railway", and "Suriye Hicaz Demiryolu" (additional names are from tr:Chemin de Fer de Hedjaz Syrie) yield only a few insignificant book results. ~ Ase1estecharge-parity 03:23, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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Merge to Hedjaz railway, of which this was a component & remaning operating part.Djflem (talk) 07:06, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

I have considered merging, but if the content of this article is completely unsourced, merging will just move the problematic content to Hedjaz railway. ~ Ase1estecharge-parity 07:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Redirect to Hedjaz railway --Whiteguru (talk) 10:12, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against renomination. Ritchie333 13:12, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Doesn't seems to satisfy WP:GNG. SwashWafer (talk) 17:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

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Keep- season 1 of Mastram already released on 30 April 2020. It is one the most viewed Indian web series. shooting for Season 2 is already going. on. It has been covered in major publications. Canadian intimacy co-ordinator, Amanda Cutting was roped in for the web series.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/web-series/news/amanda-cutting-sex-scenes-need-to-be-choreographed-like-a-bollywood-dance-sequence/articleshow/75779834.cms
https://scroll.in/reel/960370/mastram-trailer-anshuman-jha-plays-the-1980s-hindi-erotica-writer-in-mx-player-series
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/web-series/reviews/hindi/mastram/seasonreview/75874034.cms
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  • Keep: Soft Porn and pornographic actors were merged with WP:BIO - so it is the bio's of the actors involved that has to meet notability. Let's not be swee here, this is soft porn. So we are not going to WP:GNG nor or anything like that. The references give strong notability to the main actor. --Whiteguru (talk) 10:20, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 01:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Being accused of a crime does not make one notable. Furthermore, the article is far from being written in a neutral manner, focusing on the individual's past and also bringing up other incidents that the individual was not alleged to be involved in. Mention of this incident could (if he is convicted) be made in the article Anti-Chinese violence in California. ... discospinster talk 02:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was keep. Consensus is keep. Please note that the nominator's rationale is discounted as they have been blocked as a sockpuppet and Doomsdayer520 has changed from a delete rationale to keep. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 01:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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Current sources don't pass WP:GNG Woinfosd (talk) 17:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete - it is the second nom. Fails WP:SINGER. There is some media presence, but mostly related to her extravagant clothing on a few awards ceremonies. Kolma8 (talk) 21:24, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete - This is a close call because she has a charting single () and some media notoriety in "worst dressed" lists. She has some listings for modeling work, and gets noticed occasionally for her gimmick of singing in lots of different languages. Those are minor achievements that the article desperately over-interprets with terms like "controversial" and "pushing the boundaries", or implying that she is a social justice champion because she has LGBT fans. She is present in the media but not quite comprehensively enough for the requirements at WP:NSINGER and WP:NMODEL. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:39, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete a non-notable singer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:24, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep a Knowledge topic fall for WP:GNG, If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list. This topic has everything that is needed to fulfil General notability guideline. According to WP:SINGER second rule (Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.) and serval other rules this topic meets WP:SINGER and singing in lots of different languages isn't minor achievements. WP:NSINGER has no guideline for having good third party charting like this (). The topic also falls under WP:NMODEL, with significant roles in multiple notable singles, large fan base and made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. So this topic is nominated the second time, which seemed clear attack as it was last time.Umair Ahmad Butt (talk) 03:46, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep per arguments above: plenty of non-trivial coverage in independent sources, Sadads (talk) 15:12, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep I revised the organization of the article, added a reference from HuffPost, and edited WP:PUFFERY. Per WP:MUSICBIO, Z LaLa had a single on the Billboard chart for twelve weeks, with a peak position of 10, so notability is supported. In addition, she objectively appears to have WP:BASIC coverage of her "notable style" in independent and reliable sources (e.g. SFGate, HuffPost, Business Insider, E!Online) because "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability." Beccaynr (talk) 04:10, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment - My original vote above was to delete, but thanks to the recent work performed by others, I would now support a Keep verdict. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 16:04, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sandstein 22:24, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Non notable actor. All the references mentioned are about the movies. 1 reference in Mathrubhumi appears to be about the actor, but the reference is a broken link. All the roles mentioned in peacock words are blink and you miss roles, and the article is created by a single purpose editor. No better references found in WP:BEFORE and therefore fails WP:GNG Jupitus Smart 02:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete: As per nom, all the references mentioned are about the movies, not the actor. As per nom, created by a single purpose editor. Fails WP:GNG --Whiteguru (talk) 10:31, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete: I did a WP:Before. The real problem here is that its hard to find sources because when I search his name, I am getting results about Disney and related subjects in both English and Malayalam due to its popularity. Thus the subject clearly fails WP:GNG as there are no sources available to establish notabilty. But sources may exist because the subject has appeared in some major films in Malayalam movies.Regards. Kichu🐘 17:20, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Lean toward delete - Not getting any Google News hits toward GNG. The guy has been in a bunch of movies, and many are presumably notable, but he appears to always have bit parts, based on what the blue-linked articles tell me. It's possible that he is notable, but I can't find evidence of that. The litany of short films isn't compelling, since none appears to have any demonstrable notability. Same with the albums. Draftying might buy the contributor some time to build the case, but if that's not popular, then delete. The editor is almost singularly focused on James, which raises a lot of questions for me about WP:COI and or whether this is an autobiography or not, since there is a lot of career padding. Why would they know that much detail about his life, education and career, yet none of it is sourced and it's difficult to find any content about him? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:27, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Work 13:06, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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I can't see any evidence that this can pass WP:NCORP. My WP:BEFORE search has come back with nothing more than Discogs and the company's own Facebook page. This company is still active and posting on Facebook but I could find no coverage from independent sources that addresses this company directly and in detail. I found nothing on Gnews or Gbooks and a British newspaper search also came back with zilch. Spiderone 15:06, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was redirect to Fairfield University. Consensus to not keep, but not consensus to delete; redirection is a compromise that allows mergers if people want that. Sandstein 22:22, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Sources provided do not meet WP:GNG and notability is not inherited from the notable parent article. ElKevbo (talk) 01:59, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages for deletion for the same reasons:

Fairfield University Dolan School of Business (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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I'm amenable to that outcome. ElKevbo (talk) 02:37, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep academic subdivisions of a university designated as colleges should be considered inherently notable. They generally have seperate commentment exercises, and control their own budgets and staffing in ways that make them clearly notable entities.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:08, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
That is not in line with either our general notability guideline nor our common practices. You're welcome to open a discussion to propose a change to the guideline but I'm very skeptical that other editors would be supportive of us having articles about subjects for which there are few, if any, independent sources especially since there is already agreement that notability is not inherited. ElKevbo (talk) 14:24, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect - to the university's article. There's been a general practice for years here that excepting law and medical schools, individual schools of a university are best covered in the university article. I see no reason to deviate here, and I see nothing to merge, as everything is sourced to the university. 174.254.192.213 (talk) 20:50, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete all because there's nothing much to merge, and a redirect is unnecessary--anyone looking for this will immediately find the article on the university We only make these sub-University college articles for the largest and most famous universities, because others will not general have sufficient importance and coverage. All universities have websites, and that's where this belongs. (Fairfield is very decidedly not in the class of ,most famous universities---- see the article on it) DGG ( talk ) 20:09, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete all as per DGG. There really isn't anything to merge.--Rusf10 (talk) 04:51, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete and redirect to List of Wellington representative cricketers. Daniel (talk) 01:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Nothing notable about him. No coverage found. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 20:58, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Tone 16:35, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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No evidence of notability. Of the two sources cited in the article, one is a dead link for which I could not find an archived version or other replacement, and the other only makes a singe mention of Aronowitzh in passing. Nightscream (talk) 01:40, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Tone 16:35, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Highly advertorialized article about a film director, not properly sourced as passing our notability criteria for filmmakers. As always, every filmmaker is not automatically entitled to have a Knowledge article just because he exists -- the notability test requires certain objective markers of achievement, such as notable awards and/or the reception of enough coverage in reliable source media outlets independent of himself, to establish that his work has been externally validated as significant by anybody besides his own public relations agent. But three of the five footnotes shown here are IMDB, a YouTube video, and his own book's buy-it page on Amazon -- and even the two "media" hits are still not actually real journalism, but just two separate reprints of the same Q&A interview, in which he's talking about his own work in the first person, and they're also both explicitly labelled as "Sponsored Advertising Content". All of which means that none of them are reliable or notability-supporting sources at all -- and furthermore, I also had to strip the article of a large profusion of WP:ELNO violating offsite links to more Amazon pages, Facebook posts, and other pages that still aren't reliable or notability-supporting sources either. As always, people do not get into Knowledge by creating their own sources themselves so that the article is technically "verified" -- notability is not a question of what the article says he did, it's a question of how much attention has or hasn't been independently paid to the things he did by journalists in real media.
I can't prove it outright, but from what I see here I'd be extremely surprised if this isn't conflict of interest editing by the subject himself or a personal friend, colleague or relative of his. Bearcat (talk) 01:47, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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Sources updated. Thanks for the heads up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lastphotograph (talkcontribs) 19:17, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was redirect to Stefan Goldmann. Ritchie333 11:00, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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Doesn't appear to meet WP:NMUSIC or WP:NCORP. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 00:41, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • The article's subject meets WP:NMUSIC or WP:NCORP – this is a music label whose releases have been nominated for important industry awards, have repeatedly entered annual readers' polls of relevant media and are regularly reviewed/featured in leading music media and beyond, such as the New York Times, Der Spiegel and the BBC. Several artist articles on Knowledge link to it. See expanded article.Planetdust (talk) 10:42, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Several references are primary; others do not satisfy notability for Music/Others given in WP:NMUSICOTHER --Whiteguru (talk) 10:45, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep: There are no primary references in the article at all – all are either press articles by notable media or official sites of award-granting organisations etc. How do others – which others – not satisfy notability? No pseudoarguments please. As far as WP:NMUSICOTHER is concerned, points 1 & 3 are met. Probably also 5. Planetdust (talk) 20:49, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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Note: Addressed this since the 'delete' proposal by Amanuensis Balkanicus & vote by Whiteguru refer to WP:NMUSICOTHER. Both can be ignored if somebody believes that they are based on wrong premises. Planetdust (talk) 12:01, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep: Properly sourced & meets notability criteria. Numerous releases by genre-leading artists.Artur Berkut (talk) 21:06, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete (or possibly redirect to Stefan Goldmann) - Despite what the two previous "keep" voters said, the music company is not covered in reliable sources. That's because every time the company is mentioned in the press, the story is actually about a record or musician but not the company itself. In other words, the company is only listed as a piece of data in journalistic coverage of other things. The company has not been the subject of reliable media coverage in its own right, which is required for both WP:NCOMPANY and WP:NMUSICOTHER. Everything specifically dedicated to the company really is a primary source and self-promotional at best. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 01:13, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Sorry, what doomsdayer writes is entirely wrong. The company is explicitly referred to in the independent sources used in the article. If a release is reviewed, naturally the artist is mentioned too, but it is just as obvious that the release would not exist had the company not released it. Not a single source is "self promotion" or "primary" (like what, the New York Times?). Relevant industry awards are stated and sourced correctly. This label has been repeatedly in readers' polls, which should close the discussion right away. WP articles are not required to quote all available relevant sources, only that whatever is stated in the article must be sourced correctly, which is the case here. Furthermore the label is not identical with Stefan Goldmann since multiple artists release there and he is not the sole owner either. I'd really appreciate if serious statements were presented instead of distortions of WP policies. If you claim things like "primary", be specific about it. Thanks.Planetdust (talk) 20:36, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Reply - You can't vote twice, but here is an analysis of the article's sources as they currently stand.
1. Traxsource is not an objective introduction to the label, given frequent puffery like "catchy razor blade brand", "extreme focus on artistic quality", "highly individual musical expression" and a constant parade of others that would never be used by someone writing reliably and independently. Purely promotional language from the inside.
2. Interview with F. Johnassen in which Macro is only mentioned briefly.
3. Review of F. Goldmann release in which Macro is simply listed as the label.
4. Unknown because I do not have a subscription, but the article's title indicates another review of someone's album in which Macro is likely to be mentioned briefly as the label.
5. Interview with Elektro Guzzi in which their signing with Macro is discussed briefly.
6. Feature article on P. Crowley in which Macro is not mentioned at all. Yes this is reliable New York Times article, but it is not about the company.
7. List of participants at an awards ceremony, in which Macro is merely listed as the label for two nominees.
8. This one might actually help a bit: Links to several feature stories on Stefan Goldmann, but every one of them is about his larger music career and his ownership of Macro is only mentioned briefly.
9-13: Five different year-end charts from various magazines in which Macro releases were listed, but the musicians get recognized by critics in such lists, not record labels.
All of these (except #1), whether reliable or not, are about musicians and releases that are on Macro but not about Macro itself. This does not qualify for WP:NMUSICOTHER which is clearly about "Composers and performers" (first line) and not companies. A record label needs to satisfy the requirements at WP:NCOMPANY, and more specifically its sub-guideline WP:CORPDEPTH requires significant coverage which is not demonstrated by the sources currently in the article, and nobody else in this debate has found anything more. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 01:47, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete or redirect to Stefan Goldmann, it's this guy's boutique label, stand alone article unwarranted, it's a single paragraph, exists solely for promotional purposes. Acousmana (talk) 13:20, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
    • doomsdayer: You keep making up criteria that have no base in guidelines. Not one of the sources is "primary", as you previously claimed. What language independent sources chose is irrelevant here as long as they state the facts which they are the sources for. Where did you find that catchy language by an independent media outlet disqualifies the information of the year a company has been founded in? Most sources here state facts such as year founded, ownership, the nature of the music released ("symphonic") etc. The same goes for the awards & polls lists – it is irrelevant that such a particular source "merely" mentions the label briefly. What does matter is establishing that a label's releases are included in such industry awards lists. In your examination of sources above you omit that we are looking at double sourcing of the PDSK award: one is the list of nominations at the award's granting organisation official website, the other is an independent press article covering a nomination. There are more awards nominations for this label, but the point in the article was to source that such nominations exist at all, which for most labels isn't the case.
If you cared to compare to similar techno labels' articles on WP, you'd find that this article is exceptionally well sourced for every single point it makes. Re: Acousmana: It is also not "Stefan Goldmann's boutique label" (where's that a disqualifying criterion in any WP guideline?), since it has released music by 20+ different artists, some of which leading media outlets beyond music press – such as the New York Times, Der Spiegel etc – have deemed worthy of being featured extensively. Since the label is forming those releases by selecting the music, deciding on design and presentation, commissioning remixes and mastering, a review of a release is absolutely about the label's work. By the same logic a feature about a release is only about the release, but not about the artist. I've also added two additional features about the label to the article. – – This is an obviously unwarranted deletion. Close the discussion and move on to something meaningful. Thanks.Planetdust (talk) 09:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Reply - Your vested interest in this company is sticking our like a sore thumb no matter how much you bludgeon this discussion with desperate logical overreach. So much so that you don't even know who you're arguing with. The term "Boutique label" was used by Acousmana, not me. "Catchy" was used by Traxsource and I merely quoted it. No further comment, as I will take your advice to "move on to something meaningful", more so than Macro Recordings. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:53, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
'boutique label' simply means independent, it's run by Goldman, my guess is we have a COI here, and perhaps the individual simply hasn't read WP:PROMO, ultimately this is SEO at work, nothing else, trying to distinguish itself from the zillion other Berlin techno labels. Acousmana (talk) 15:03, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
No consensus. Yes, I have a "vested interest" in protecting my work in WP articles (I've researched & added multiple sources since the deletion discussion was opened) from sloppily argued deletion attempts by people who relentlessly and repeatedly misrepresent both, WP guidelines and the facts relevant to the article. Several statements in, in which both Doomsdayer & Acousmana failed to support their contrafactual assessments or evaluate the current state of the article, they've moved down to ad hominem insinuations instead. This says it all, really.
I'll sum up: the article is very well sourced. Its subject is well covered by multiple independent and relevant sources. The label's artists and releases are featured in leading media well beyond the music industry and multiple award nominations as well as readers' poll entries all show this is a notable subject.
Deletion is clearly unjustified. 7 days are over, no consensus on deletion has formed: admins, pls close discussion. Thanks everybody.Planetdust (talk) 16:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Reply Entirely wrong: NOT ONE source is merely or predominantly "based on press releases" or "announcements" except for award nominations, by the award granting organizations / the media whose polls we're looking at – not by any representative of the label. Why those are included in the sources has been stated above (What better source for who's been nominated or voted into a poll than the media that publishes these?), BUT an independent source is quoted right next to the one for the awards too. ::Why notability is established has been reiterated above in a way that is beyond clear – also, there are TWO in depth articles focused on the company in the sources (WP:CORPDEPTH). There are no primary sources, and WP:ORGIND is fully met. Please check sources before pointing to guidelines here. Thanks. I repeat: no consensusPlanetdust (talk) 21:12, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Response Looked again. I should have said "based on interviews with company execs" and "discussing the music not the company". There's often a difficulty with organizations that are, essentially, entirely associated with a person or persons and this tends to effect "artistic" led companies such as record labels and even architects. You have to ask yourself, which is notable, the company or the people. Which is what I see in this case. If the topic is about the company (as it is here, the topic is Macro Recordings), then we want a reference that provides in-depth information *about the company* and not about the products and containing "Independent Content". None of those references meet the criteria. HighKing 12:12, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
No consensus Unfortunately "delete" votes have been added recently which do not appear to engage with the actual article and its sources anymore. It seems this discussion has degenerated into a sad personal quarrel between two editors. The discussion should have been closed a while ago. Several reliable and independent sources have been added to the article recently, enough of which cover the company itself in some depth (specifically Ref 3 & 7 – see WP:CORPDEPTH / WP:MULTSOURCES for criteria). I could not identify any sources authored by employees / artists of the company (WP:IS). Ref 1 should be replaced by a better source (it appears to be based on a PR text by a distributor), but that is not a reason for arguing deletion of the entire article. Most of the rest isn't trivial or in passing either (WP:SIGCOV). I tend to agree that awards/polls are significant for company relevance itself (particularly Ref 11 & 12). Repeated invoking of WP:PROMO in the discussion similarly appears to not be based on the actual article, which has no promotional content / WP:PUFFERY. The company is associated with several artists who have individual WP articles and I see more value in having an article which outlines the context of a record label than having to search through another musician's biography (who happens to be part-owner of the company) which would be the case if redirected.
The "delete" votes before Feb 25 were given before most of the current sources were added. The "delete" votes since don't appear to take the new sources into consideration and tend to give blanket statements without elaborating on their assessments. Artur Berkut (talk) 06:32, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Note: Changes to sources have been made – ref ## given above by Artur Berkut & Doomsdayer may not match current ref ##.Planetdust (talk) 13:04, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Comment– Is the nomination of Villa Kamogawa for deletion by Acousmana, instead of, say, French & American Academy in Rome, some sort of personal attack on articles I've created? – WP:VVT. Cos someone genuinely interested in the topic HERE would have looked into the sources & revised previously touted statements re: WP:PROMO etc, instead of maliciously opening deletion discussion specifically to tie up editors into multiple disputes at once – WP:VD. Just asking. One might also want to look into the curious lockstep in the timing of comments by Acousmana & Doomsdayer520. A response time of over a day, then both drop comments along the same lines within minutes – WP:CANVASS. And again: attempts at discrediting other editors instead of assessment of the notability in question. The comments you both posted since Feb 23 pretty much look like trolling. No substance. –––––– Another question: what was wrong with moving towards closure after 7 days? I believe that's what the guideline says? If I was wrong, pls let me know the relevant guideline. Planetdust (talk) 17:04, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
there was an apparent COI, and evidence of WP:SOAP, inquiry lead to another example of a stub, that appeared to be insufficiency notable, lacked quality sources, and had been seeded with a link to suspected COI article. There are other examples, but not all are as egregious. Acousmana (talk) 18:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Dear Planetdust: I prefer to assume good faith but you sure are making it tough. I said far above that I had no further comment, but now there is an accusation against me. (A) Acousmana and I made comments here within a few minutes of each other, which could be an evil conspiracy or it could be nothing but a coincidence. A coincidence is not proof. (B) Discussions like this can only be closed by an Administrator, or in the event of a purely uncontroversial matter, by an uninvolved editor. Go to Knowledge:Closing discussions and read sections 3-4 carefully. (C) Since you are a relatively new Knowledge editor, you could take the opportunity to learn about WP guidelines and admit that more experienced editors have wisdom that could be useful. Or you could spew haphazard accusations. (D) None of this has made Macro Recordings any more notable. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 22:58, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Reply: Two editors, Acousmana and yourself, act in perfect unison on 2 articles: The same style of manipulation of the discussion, blanket discrediting and acting as if clearly stated things have never been written. The presence of multiple independent, third party sources are called "primary or promotional" without a speck of evidence. This is repeated blatantly and against better knowledge, probably in the hope of manipulating other editors. I have no problem admitting errors and learning in the process. You are right re: (B) – apologies, won't happen again. I've done quite a bit of work in response to justified criticism of articles/sources. You might be more frequent editors, but two ppl have repeatedly called you out on your refusal to actually engage with the article in this discussion (before & after you claimed to absent yourself). In the meantime all you two do is spending significant effort on trying to discredit other editors and embroil them in further discussions (solely selected for this purpose). Even in your latest comment you couldn't refrain from trying to manipulate the state of establishing notability here. I prefer to assume good faith but you sure are making it tough. Planetdust (talk) 09:01, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Please read WP:BLUDGEON. You've had your say. Let others have their's. HighKing 12:14, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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The result was redirect to David Dobrik. Tone 16:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Does not meet WP:GNG to warrant its own article, though it might be merged with David Dobrik. Throast (talk) 00:04, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Keep: The Vlog Squad is a widespread online coalition and enjoys online following on its own merit. The created page in Knowledge gave opportunity for many successful vloggers to have at least a line or two on the page independent of Dobrik. It is true that the "Squad" was launched by David Dobrik but they run independently of him. It is not physically possible or correct to run everything in the Vlog Squad as to have to do with him. He remains very much respected by the vloggers, but Vlog Squad is far more than just Dobrik you suggest. It serves the purpose of encompassing one of the widest coalitions of online vloggers. werldwayd (talk) 00:37, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
In order for this article to not be deleted, you need to argue its notability, meaning significant coverage of the subject by reliable secondary sources. A tag has been in place on the article for half a year and no more sources have been added. So far, its notability has not been established. Throast (talk) 00:45, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Changing your vote to KEEP. "OPPOSE" is not the correct format. Expertwikiguy (talk) 19:56, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: WP:ELP speaks of user generated content, which is what this is. On the other hand we have videologgers, Vlog squad as it is called. WP:NYOUTUBE tells that YouTubers are Internet celebrities whose fame has come about through their publishing of their own videos on YouTube that they feature in. This is the case here. The applying principle is like so: Per WP:BASIC, the starting point is significant coverage in multiple, reliable, secondary sources. Youtube gives 299 video with 12,099 views. Search results come up with sexual assault claims and who's left the Vlog squad. Notability as per WP:BASIC is not seen. --Whiteguru (talk) 10:58, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Tone 16:34, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Article which was soft deleted at AFD due to low participation in the original discussion, then accordingly undeleted on an WP:RFU request by the original creator -- but the creator has not substantively bolstered the case for notability, or even paid any attention at all to the advice they were given about the difference between reliable sources that constitute support for notability and primary sources that do not. The only real media references here are still a minor community hyperlocal that isn't widely distributed enough to singlehandedly vault a topic over WP:GNG all by itself if it's the strongest source on offer, and a Q&A interview in which the filmmaker is speaking about his own work in the first person -- and other than that, the creator has only continued to add bad sources (blogs, podcasts, the self-published catalogues of film festivals) that aren't building notability at all. Again, the notability test for films is not passed just because film festival catalogues offer technical verification that the film was screened there -- it's passed if and when the film has been the subject of media attention (critical reviews, etc.) to show that it's been externally validated as significant, and there still isn't nearly enough real media coverage being shown here. Bearcat (talk) 00:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete: There are only two references that meet notability for WP:NFILM. There remainder are as per nom, press releases, theatre notices, and first person interviews. Although the maker has done a lot of work over a trilogy, there is insufficient notablility in this article. --Whiteguru (talk) 11:04, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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